chief74 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I am starting a new batch of 147gr subsonic is 3.9 grains of TG a good load ,data says it is 929 can anyone verify.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDA Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) The only way to "verify" that would be to shoot it with your gun using a chronograph. Barrel length will affect velocity as well as barrel condition, barrel dia, chember dia, OAL, possibly temp, distance from muzzle to chronograph, altitude, etc. Edited January 19, 2017 by TDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtReMe90 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Shot some 147s with titegroup through my chrono last weekend with my 5" 2011. 3.0 Grains Avg 848 3.2 Grains Avg 871 Edited January 19, 2017 by XtReMe90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenemwild Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 3.9 would be at or over max charge. I use 3.0 on a 5" barrel gun and 3.4 on a 4.5" barrel gun. Be careful and check your load data with titegroup. It is a very fast powder the difference in min and max charges for me where about 1/2 a grain apartSent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johniac7078 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 TG in a revolver will make the cylinder and forcing cone too hot to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, johniac7078 said: TG in a revolver will make the cylinder and forcing cone too hot to handle. Is this from experience? You shot a stage with bullets loaded with TG and it was too hot to handle at the end of the stage? What caliber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johniac7078 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Just now, Religious Shooter said: Is this from experience? You shot a stage with bullets loaded with TG and it was too hot to handle at the end of the stage? What caliber? In a 929, actually Yes, It was DAMN hot and I'd get burned by the forcing cone. The cylinder was hot as hell too. 9mm, 160 grain Bayou bullets and 124. Never liked 147 in revolvers, they don't load that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 hour ago, johniac7078 said: In a 929, actually Yes, It was DAMN hot and I'd get burned by the forcing cone. The cylinder was hot as hell too. 9mm, 160 grain Bayou bullets and 124. Never liked 147 in revolvers, they don't load that great. So which powder are you using that doesn't make the revolver unusable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerko Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 don't know about revolver , but I had good experience with CFE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanMan1961 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Religious Shooter said: So which powder are you using that doesn't make the revolver unusable? I've run 3.6gr of Titegroup and 3.7gr of N320 under Berry's 147gr plated round nosed bullets in my S&W 929 to make ~900fps. After ~200 rounds the cylinder and forcing cone is noticeably cooler with the N320. The best load though was 3.4gr N320 under a 38sp 158gr Berrys plated round nose bullet loaded into a 9mm case @ 1.170". Gave me a nice soft 840fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Religious Shooter said: Is this from experience? You shot a stage with bullets loaded with TG and it was too hot to handle at the end of the stage? What caliber? TG is widely known for this. Being a dual-base powder it's burn temperature is very high. This is the same reason it causes much more smoke that cooler-burning powders under leads round, or the oldschool moly-coated bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 22 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: TG is widely known for this. Being a dual-base powder it's burn temperature is very high. This is the same reason it causes much more smoke that cooler-burning powders under leads round, or the oldschool moly-coated bullets. I know that its purported to be hotter burning. I don't think it is well known that you shouldn't be using it in a competition revolver because you literally can't finish a stage without burning your self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I thought _that_ was a common-knowledge side effect of the high burn temps. Perhaps I'm just biased because we have a local who likes to spread the story of his miscues attempting to feed titegroup to a wheelgun. So everyone knows it in my shooting circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Well the OP is reloading with TG for his 929. johniac7078 reloaded with TG for his revolver and found out. I just read about it. You got three people there that didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief74 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 thanks for all the info ,I'm shooting it out of a Glock 19 gen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72stick Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I tried pushing my cast powder coated 147s with TG in my STI 9mm Edge. They started tumbling at 1000 f/s. I finally settled on 3g of TG and 1.135 OAL. That load rocks in my 9mm PCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I tried TG in 38 Spl for Bowling Pins. These were +P level loads with 173 gr Keith design bullet I cast myself. I had one pin lay down on me, so it took a reload, and a total of 8 shots to clear the table. My 686 was so hot that I could have branded cattle with it after the eight rapidly fired shots. I had a similar issue with my XD in the 9mm match. By the time I got home I had blisters on a couple of fingers, probably from the reload. That ended my experimentation with TG. I gave the rest of the four pounder away a couple of years later, I decided it just wasn't going to work for my style of shooting. The accuracy was really nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johniac7078 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 On 1/19/2017 at 9:28 PM, Religious Shooter said: So which powder are you using that doesn't make the revolver unusable? solo 1000, N320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I'm a bottom-feeder shooter, but Nobel Sport Priam V is nearly as clean as N320, shoots at least as softly, and is easily available through Grafs and Powder Valley at a really good price. I paid $178 shipped for 11 pounds when PV was doing a free hazmat deal on 10 1.1 pound jugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3.2gr TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3.0grs TG,160 Bayou, 627 Smith Shoot them in icore, not a concern for me, low A class shooter They seem fine overall fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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