johnbu Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Good luck with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just to update my barrel is on it's way to grams I've got the entire thing apart now and I'm polishing everything that can be polished. Doing all the small pieces first then I'll work on slide and frame as well. Yes he trigger bar spring flies if you're a dumbass. Bit unnerving taking that thing apart it's not a glock by any stretch da/sa was about 10.5/5.5 or so in stock config. One thing that has me stumped is how to get the trigger bar spring out so I can polish the plunger shaft. Is it a twist off or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Never mind ARy got it Edited December 21, 2016 by johnbu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Perfect thanks I've had one episode with a spring tonight don't need another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Springs likely to get lost: The one under the firing pin block / safety. The spring on the trigger pivot pin The spring AND TINY PLUNGER inside the magazine catch. (Comes loose when you pull the trigger bar plunger and spring up out of the frame.) Edited December 21, 2016 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Well I've got this almost all the way back together now after my initial polish run but I've hit one snag. The figment of safety and sear seems to be different for me in that the safety seems to be hitting on the face of the sear leg. Has anyone ever seen that? I don't know if I fit this wrong or not but did snap the leg on a sear spring so it's possible I'm wrong I did break out the trigger pull gauge gauge and was At 6lbs 3 oz average da and 3 lbs 1 oz sa. Very happy with that. That's with the pd 13 lb spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Nope. No one has ever seen the safety issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 I've read through your thread and all the pictures. My safety looks like it's hitting on the very tip of the sear not underneath. Like my sear is too low even though everything is in place and installed properly. Everything I've read says don't file the tip of the sear leg. Which is where mine looks like it's hitting. Of course I could be wrong too because it was a long day for me and I was tired. I'll be waiting for new sear springs before I do anything though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 20 minutes ago, Nathanb said: I've read through your thread and all the pictures. My safety looks like it's hitting on the very tip of the sear not underneath. Like my sear is too low even though everything is in place and installed properly. Everything I've read says don't file the tip of the sear leg. Which is where mine looks like it's hitting. Of course I could be wrong too because it was a long day for me and I was tired. I'll be waiting for new sear springs before I do anything though pictures speak a thousand words........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Well I'll get right on that once you guys send me more springs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Based off your order your ready to wage war on that thing ......... It'll ship out first thing in the AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nathanb said: I've read through your thread and all the pictures. My safety looks like it's hitting on the very tip of the sear not underneath. Like my sear is too low even though everything is in place and installed properly. Everything I've read says don't file the tip of the sear leg. Which is where mine looks like it's hitting. Of course I could be wrong too because it was a long day for me and I was tired. I'll be waiting for new sear springs before I do anything though Your situation is normal. Grind the underside of that leg (where I show in that post above) until the bump on the safety shaft can finally tuck underneath it. Like this... Edited December 30, 2016 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Ok. Glad to know I didn't induce some issue. I'll work on that when I get new springs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Got the gun back together today and safety fitted. I finally got to the point where it was either the sear or me and got it to go. Feel a lot better about that. It's stiff but it engages. I'm going to run it for a few sessions of dry fire and try to put a few hundred rounds through it and then tear it down and polish some more. After seeing where the gun contacts in moving areas I realize the areas I need to spend more time with the blue magic. I ended up with a 6lb3 oz or so trigger in double action and a 2lb 9 oz trigger in single action alsohave you first match of the year coming up. High of 23 and I'm thinking about going and shooting the tanfo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 One thing I have to add is even in double action it does not feel like six pounds. It just glides and breaks. Curious to see if I can still get that down a bit but I want to see how it goes first with everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Blue magic makes me horny. Half the battle with the trigger is the smoothness of the pull and a crops consistent break. I don't mind a heavy trigger if it has a good break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Just now, ryridesmotox said: Blue magic makes me horny. Half the battle with the trigger is the smoothness of the pull and a crops consistent break. I don't mind a heavy trigger if it has a good break nice!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, ryridesmotox said: Blue magic makes me horny. Half the battle with the trigger is the smoothness of the pull and a crops consistent break. I don't mind a heavy trigger if it has a good break I'll buy those from you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 44 minutes ago, B_RAD said: I'll buy those from you! Send me yours and postage for the return trip... I'll polish em and send em back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, ryridesmotox said: Send me yours and postage for the return trip... I'll polish em and send em back. Man, that's an awesome offer. Thanks! I'm gonna make another go at them this weekend. Not sure they'll turn out as good as yours.. I'll probably regret not taking you up on that offer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ryridesmotox said: Blue magic makes me horny. Half the battle with the trigger is the smoothness of the pull and a crops consistent break. I don't mind a heavy trigger if it has a good break I just stuck my gun back together after 4 more hours of work on it. "Wet chrome" polished some places I'd merey rubbed the black off of, before. I lost 9oz of DA pull and I'm down to an honest 5.5lb average now. I'm convinced switching from Flitz to Blue Magic definitely helped. Hell, it let me polish up the GF's high end stainless steel pans until scrambled eggs don't have a hope of sticking anymore... Edited January 4, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionaryMike Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: I just stuck my gun back together after 4 more hours of work on it. "Wet chrome" polished some places I'd merey rubbed the black off of, before. I lost 9oz of DA pull and I'm down to an honest 5.5lb average now. I'm convinced switching from Flitz to Blue Magic definitely helped. Hell, it let me polish up the GF's high end stainless steel pans until scrambled eggs don't have a hope of sticking anymore... Aren't you using a 14lb hammer spring? I've done a pretty darn good polish job and I can't get my 12lb trigger job under 5lb 9oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I use a 14lbs spring and my DA is 5# 5oz and my SA is 2# 5 oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, MissionaryMike said: Aren't you using a 14lb hammer spring? I've done a pretty darn good polish job and I can't get my 12lb trigger job under 5lb 9oz. Mine is 5lb 8.9oz, so ours match. (That's roughly 5.5ish pounds) IMO, you're done. It's time for us both to learn to shoot the sucker like a boss. The difference between my DA pull and @ryridesmotox's is a quarter of a pound. You can't feel that. Put the dremel down and load some ammo. EDIT: damn. Just now noticed you're running less hammer spring. Meh. Shoot thing a bunch them look for where it might be rubbing! Edited January 4, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Exactly. My "opinion" is the Patriot Defense parts, a bucket of blue magic and some friction will transform these crude guns into wonderful triggers only seen on VERY expensive custom guns. And the PD parts allow normal types to do it flowing simple directions. All that was so we can shoot them more. More often. More accurately. More enjoyably. And score more points because we will be practicing more. In the not too distant past, these results were nearly unheard of even from top notch smiths... now about anyone can get them WITH 100% IGNITION RELIABILITY. Pretty amazing stuff -- hats off to the creative folks at Patriot Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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