Schu Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I just finished my first build with a NYS complaint setup My desire is to shoot 3G. In comparison to other AR setups that I have shot (all non-compliant) with a nice comp/break/etc... my muzzle rise is significant. Since I cannot add a brake/compensator..... What is the best way to control muzzle flip? Below is my setup... My one feature is removable mag. Thordson stock 18" .750 stainless barrel, thread protector, Rifle gas 15" SLR Helix handguard JP adjustable gas block Nickel-boron BCG Slick side upper spikes "standard" carbine spring/buffer. thread protector MTAC 1x4 Thoughts that I have. Change to: Low Mass BCG by JP and move to Silent capture by JP with low spring weight, then adjust my gas block to the lowest possible setting with still reliably locking back on empty... I'm new to the platform. I have shot IPSC/S-C, but want to step up to 3G. I am looking for suggestions. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBamBoo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Sounds like your on the right track. I have a FRS-15 setup on one of my AR's. Without being able to use a brake, you are limited to doing all the other "tricks" to limit recoil. Using the low mass BCG will help a little. Not sure if a SCS would do anything, but I run them in all my AR's. Good shooting technique will be a bit more important to help mitigate the recoil impulse. I feel for ya. Being here in CA we know the pain of out of control gun laws....but at least we can still have muzzle brakes. Edited June 24, 2016 by BigBamBoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I lived in NY until 2 years ago - had an AR w/o a comp .... Sold it, and moved to Florida. You have to be a Real He-Man to shoot an AR, w/o a comp, and be competititve in 3-gun - I chose to move to Florida, instead. Good luck with it. Guess as long as you compete in NY, you should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge40 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Could you port the barell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 MagnaPort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Could you port the barell? Yes, if you want to shoot in Open. No in other USPSA divisions. I have not checked every rule set so YMMV. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 LMOS and light buffer. Retune the fas block and spring for reliable function and you will be about as far as you can go. Also... There is a great deal of muzzle movement you can overcome with technique. I'm curious to know if NY has defined specifically what a comp is. Does a legal description exist? The reason I ask is because you might be able to have compensator features machined into the barrel itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 LMOS and light buffer. Retune the fas block and spring for reliable function and you will be about as far as you can go. Also... There is a great deal of muzzle movement you can overcome with technique. I'm curious to know if NY has defined specifically what a comp is. Does a legal description exist? The reason I ask is because you might be able to have compensator features machined into the barrel itself. Which is MagnaPorting, and like Doug said, is Open Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 What would be the difference between a comp pinned and welded to a barrel and a barrel with ports machined into the last 3" of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 What would be the difference between a comp pinned and welded to a barrel and a barrel with ports machined into the last 3" of it? Realistically, not a thing. Just ignorant politicians demonizing inanimate objects instead of demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 What would be the difference between a comp pinned and welded to a barrel and a barrel with ports machined into the last 3" of it? Realistically, not a thing. Just ignorant politicians demonizing inanimate objects instead of demons.[/quote Well said, Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 LMOS and light buffer. Retune the fas block and spring for reliable function and you will be about as far as you can go. Also... There is a great deal of muzzle movement you can overcome with technique. I'm curious to know if NY has defined specifically what a comp is. Does a legal description exist? The reason I ask is because you might be able to have compensator features machined into the barrel itself. Which is MagnaPorting, and like Doug said, is Open Division. So, if the rifling is back bored and the compensator slots are machined into the free area, that would be open gun? Also... If the guy is in NY, would the local match director care? That's a whole other state, playing by a whole other set of rules. They might need to adapt to the conditions to have anything really fun to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Realistically no difference but we are talking rules and that may have nothing to do with reality, especially in regards to USPSA. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Not sure how much it all matters (about the comp) when you're restricted by state law, to load only 10 rounds into your AR-15 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Not sure how much it all matters (about the comp) when you're restricted by state law, to load only 10 rounds into your AR-15 ... The magazine capacity has nothing to do with muzzle flip or recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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