Novock Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hey guys, Getting into loading shotgun and I like to keep as few powders on hand as possible. I use titegroup for my 9mm minor rounds (uspsa pf) and am getting ready to load 12 gauge for 3 gun... titegroup burns fast and hot in pistol. Is it safe to say my shotgun would be hotter than if i were to run something like titewad? with weapon manipulation on the range during a match, guys burn their support hand on shotguns all the time while reloading. Just want to make sure titegroup wouldnt be significantly hotter (temp) than your average store bought similar load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hey guys, Getting into loading shotgun and I like to keep as few powders on hand as possible. I use titegroup for my 9mm minor rounds (uspsa pf) and am getting ready to load 12 gauge for 3 gun... titegroup burns fast and hot in pistol. Is it safe to say my shotgun would be hotter than if i were to run something like titewad? with weapon manipulation on the range during a match, guys burn their support hand on shotguns all the time while reloading. Just want to make sure titegroup wouldnt be significantly hotter (temp) than your average store bought similar load. It should be hotter because of the nitro glycerine base. It has melted FO rods before on my pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 You are going to run through a lot more powder loading shotgun than you would pistol. Load data shows using anywhere between 16 and 20 grains of power for a 1 oz load. You will get between 350 and 440 shells loaded per pound of powder. As hard as titegroup is to find sometimes I don't know if you would want to burn it up in shotgun shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 If hot enough, could it even burn/melt your wads while shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
practical_man Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 You are going to run through a lot more powder loading shotgun than you would pistol. Load data shows using anywhere between 16 and 20 grains of power for a 1 oz load. You will get between 350 and 440 shells loaded per pound of powder. As hard as titegroup is to find sometimes I don't know if you would want to burn it up in shotgun shells. This^^^^ Titegroup isn't optimal for shotguns in my experience. It burns very hot and is pressure spikey. Loading shots hells isn't like metallic cartridges in that you don't get pressure signs on shotshells. You just get failure. I like to minimize powder too. Makes things simpler. That said, I keep a powder for each gauge of shotgun and each rifle caliber. It just isn't worth it to me to sub optimize performance. There are many good shotgun powders that work in pistol cartridges. I don't think Titegroup is one of them. For 12 gauge, Red Dot, E3, WSF, and a host of other work well and can be used in pistol calibers. I really like Clays but it has been unavailable for a long time. Bottom line is I think you will be happier to choose a shotgun powder better suited to the performance you want and keep Titegroup for your pistol if you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I do not load shotgun...but... I would think you would be better off using a shotgun powder that works well in 9mm than a 9mm powder that you are trying to get to work in shotgun. Some options of similar performance that come to mind would be WST (my go to power for 9mm min and .40 maj), WSF, Solo 1000, E3, Clays I'm sure there are plenty others. Not to mention the shotgun powders seem to be easier to get your hands on these days, and burn cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Hey guys, Getting into loading shotgun and I like to keep as few powders on hand as possible. I use titegroup for my 9mm minor rounds (uspsa pf) and am getting ready to load 12 gauge for 3 gun... titegroup burns fast and hot in pistol. Is it safe to say my shotgun would be hotter than if i were to run something like titewad? with weapon manipulation on the range during a match, guys burn their support hand on shotguns all the time while reloading. Just want to make sure titegroup wouldnt be significantly hotter (temp) than your average store bought similar load. Forget Titegroup You want Titewad (Hodgdon). !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I don't think tightwad is a good choice for 9mm though. Too fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) I use mostly 700x for shotgun loading but it will also double as a pistol powder and is easier to find than titegroup. Edited January 14, 2016 by bwikel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I don't think tightwad is a good choice for 9mm though. Too fast... He is talking shotgun not 9,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I guess I mis-read... I though the OP's goal was to find one powder he could use for both 9mm and his shotgun. I guess he is actually saying he plans to use TG for his 9mm, and just wanted to know if he could use it for his shotgun, or if he should select a different powder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybayonet Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I don't think tightwad is a good choice for 9mm though. Too fast... He is talking shotgun not 9,,,,,,, From my take, OP is looking for a powder that does shotgun and 9mm. My favorite is unique. I use it for 9mm, .45acp, .380acp, 12ga and 16ga. Dirty but works everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jacket Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I actualy just loaded some unique. Trying to use components including some misc powders I had laying around. Used clay dot, red dot and unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSnSC Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 CLAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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