Joe D Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I just got off the phone with IDPA headquarters. They stated that unless there is an excessive amount of gap/daylight evident in the belt tunnel the holster is legal. Who knows what excessive is? They stated that MDs were not expected to get down on their knees to examine the belt tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Oh my. I like (maybe love) IDPA as a sport but these telephone rulebook adjustments are BAD BAD BAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Ya know, there have been problems in the past and now the present. They never fix anything, just compound them. This is an old problem of theirs. Well they said on the phone, I have this letter, I got this email, etc. It's just all too funny No wonder the lubs around here have stopped shooting IDPA and people are not renewing memberships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Ya know, there have been problems in the past and now the present. They never fix anything, just compound them. This is an old problem of theirs. Well they said on the phone, I have this letter, I got this email, etc. UNDERSTATEMENT ALERT! UNDERSTATEMENT ALERT! WHOOP! WHOOP! WHOOP! UNDERSTATEMENT ALERT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 easy Big Guy, the moderators will put some whipass on you for your uncontrollable excitement..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 It was not I who posted that message! My automated Understatement Detector roboposted it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 They stated that MDs were not expected to get down on their knees to examine the belt tunnel. Certainly NOT! But some may try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Short People got nobody who loves them...especially when they are checking for daylight in the belt loops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver8M3 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 They stated that MDs were not expected to get down on their knees... but...will the competitors be forced to bend over???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 10, 2005 Author Share Posted February 10, 2005 I guess I will need to start an email file all over again. I will disallow any daylight call if the SO does an IPSC squat when checking. One knee must be on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 And they can't wear visibible knee pads when they are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRD Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 <banging head against keyboard> It's all just a bad dream....it's all just a bad dream.... - Gabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Perez Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I just got off the phone with IDPA headquarters. They stated that unless there is an excessive amount of gap/daylight evident in the belt tunnel the holster is legal. Who knows what excessive is? They stated that MDs were not expected to get down on their knees to examine the belt tunnel. let page 32 be your guide - in the absence of any concrete definitions. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewalker Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Light tunnels? After a few weeks to let these new rules sink in......they really dont seem so far fetched. Put another way we have (thread drift) speed limits.....but who dosent exceed them by a few miles an hour? I have come to believe these new rules are to curtail the OUTragous violators. 55 mph in a 30 mph zone.....not 32 in a 30...Even when i SO im still a shooter, and the hardest thing is to treat a competator fairly when he clearly is cheating the intent. Without the light tunnel rule we would have to tollerate whatever a shooter chooses to wear That being said yes i have replaced 2 guns, and am in the process of replacing 3 holsters and mag pouches, But in the end i think it will improve the sport.. just my .02 Frederick Haring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock2234 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I'll be buying a Glock 21 for CDP. My CDP gun is now 1.7 oz. too heavy. I'll use the "CDP" gun to shoot ESP. Oh, I bought a Dillon 550 to shoot the 125pf. I also modified a LEGAL Uncle Mike's paddle holster to the LIMIT of permissible specs. It looks down right racey. My Safariland paddle is not functional without the 1/4" spacers. I hope I can sell it. Maybe I'll use it for concealed carry. So much for preventing the equipment race. The new "Enhanced" rules have cost me about $1,700. The results, priceless. I feel so warm and fuzzy about the intent. Let's hug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TractorTed Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I just got off the phone with IDPA headquarters. They stated that unless there is an excessive amount of gap/daylight evident in the belt tunnel the holster is legal. Who knows what excessive is? They stated that MDs were not expected to get down on their knees to examine the belt tunnel. Great, more stupidity. They shouldn't call this thing a rulebook. It's a suggestionbook. That answer makes it even more subjective than it was. Now I'm really afraid to put up money for a major I would stay over for. Getting dq'ed locally would be bad enough, what if some nitwit three states over decided his description of excessive gap differs from everyone elses? Not gonna be happy so maybe I won't bother. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Great, more stupidity. They shouldn't call this thing a rulebook. It's a suggestionbook. Ted It is a very poor work of fiction. Now we have 2 rule makers trying to take money on April 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 11, 2005 Author Share Posted February 11, 2005 Guess I will have to dig out my HQ email file again. It was kind of like my "Carry Orders" in the military. I did ask HQ to post this "clarification" on their website or in the TJ. I do get the feeling that the HQ bunch runs in a very small circle. Three ACs that I talked to said they had no input as to the new rule book. That did seem a bit strange to me as they are the ones that have direct contact with the members. Guess I will have to have an assortment of holsters. One that is legal beyond a shadow of a doubt, the one that I have used for the last four years and a gamer holster. The completely legal one is, of course, the one I would never CC. I would be shot 10 times before I could draw my weapon from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRD Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 While we have always run 100% by-the-book at our club, I just don't see how that is going to be possible this year. If HQ is incapable or unwilling to clarify this garbage, we're going to have to do it ourselves one way or another. What a joke. - Gabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the duck of death Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I got this from Blade-tech on 1 Feb 05: Hello, According to Bill Wilson the injection molded belt holster are IDPA Legal. However it has to meet the 3/4" rule. Bobby Mcgee bobby@blade-tech.com Customer Service Manager/ Tech support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay1 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 CALM BLUE OCEAN, CALM BLUE OCEAN, CALM BLUE OCEAN I spoke to Comp-Tac yesterday and even though his speed holster should meet the new rules, they think it is best to get through a couple of State level shoots before they says "buy this one and it will be in compliance". No one knows what the hell is going on yet and one club to the next - I'm gonna melt down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkelly Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 No one can claim their belt holster to be IDPA legal, as compliance to the 3/4" is as much body related as holster related, perhaps more so. The logic of the IDPA rule changes are past me, waaaay past me! Respectfully, jdkelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Logic? LOGIC? LOGIC? My sides! My sides! It hurts! My sides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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