sigsauerfan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) ok.let's put it straight . my eyes are as old as me, and i started noticing i see a little blurry from very close,and my front sight is a little blurred if i don't extend my arms fully lolll. i have an appointment coming in few days with the optometrist ,i already pointed out i need both readers and specially made glasses or contact lens for my shooting endeavors. problem is, i'm not sure about what is the right ticket.i want the best solution possible for a fast sight-target acquisition. since my vision is perfect at greater distance i'm considering : 1- just my strong eye with the correction,the other side with nothing. 2-bifocals,lower glass with the RX,the upper part of the glass,none. (is this can make acquisition as fast as just one side RX'd ??) 3- specially made shooting glass with just a ''dot'' RX'd on my strong eye glass like these: http://www.tacticalrx.com/index.html i'd like to know what works for you guys,i used the search function but couldn't identify a consensus about what is the easiest set up for fast action. Edited January 4, 2015 by sigsauerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think that the consensus is something like: Dominant eye set for front sight distance and non-dominant set for long distance. I use this. I'm thinking of trying to push the focus on my dominant out to 2 ft beyond my front sight. I'm hoping that this will help with distance transitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I use dominant side set up so the front sight is sharp and other eye set for distance. Single vision lenses, no bifocals. Since the mid 80s that has worked well for me. Also I put the "shooting glasses" on when I get up on days I'm going shooting so every thing is going down the same path. For dots or scopes just wear whatever you normally utilize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercster Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This is a pretty much personal thing as we have different vision issues. I have a set of shooting glasses with the dominant eye optimized for the front sight and the lower part being a bifocal for reading and close work. The non dominant lens is a single focus set for distance. This works fine for the pistol but not so for my scoped AR and totalling useless for my MRD or for an Eotech I had for a while. So when I shoot multigun I either have to switch glasses or compromise. My day glasses are progressive and work for the rifle but less well for the pistol unless I tilt my head back unnaturally. I'm going to search out an eye specialist who is also a shooter and likely get a set with a trifocal dominant eye. If you have even mild astigmatism, it's difficult to use holographic sights and red dots. It's PITA getting old. Other things don't work all that well anymore too :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavy Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I would try dominant eye Rx as far in front of the sight as you can get and still get an acceptable sight picture. This will help with the transition to far targets. Also consider contacts. This way the lens follows your eye movement, and you can wear normal shooting glasses so you don't have to have a couple pair of prescription glasses for indoor/low or outdoor/bright light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 progressive contacts. you will see 20/20 near and 20/20 far as long as your vision is correctable just like with glasses. been wearing them for years with perfect 20/20 vision like i was 18 years old .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 progressive contacts. you will see 20/20 near and 20/20 far as long as your vision is correctable just like with glasses. been wearing them for years with perfect 20/20 vision like i was 18 years old .. Progressive contacts can be a problem when there is no correction needed at near. They can work but have a much lower success rate then if you needed an Rx for all distances. The OP probably never wore glasses and has finally hit that magical time when he has issues up close. As we all know, it's not the age. It's that business is saving money by using smaller print. :roflol:He might be better off using one c/l set for the sight distance. Which eye to be determined by his Dr and experimentation. He should also try the progressives, just to give it a try. All options are on the table as he's just starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) progressive contacts. you will see 20/20 near and 20/20 far as long as your vision is correctable just like with glasses. been wearing them for years with perfect 20/20 vision like i was 18 years old .. Progressive contacts can be a problem when there is no correction needed at near. They can work but have a much lower success rate then if you needed an Rx for all distances. The OP probably never wore glasses and has finally hit that magical time when he has issues up close. As we all know, it's not the age. It's that business is saving money by using smaller print. :roflol:He might be better off using one c/l set for the sight distance. Which eye to be determined by his Dr and experimentation. He should also try the progressives, just to give it a try. All options are on the table as he's just starting. i've never had glasses before. as you said, i'm a little presbyopic , i see perfectly far away,but started to have the front sight a little blurred . i just don't want to spend a lot of cash in the quest for the right solution ; i'd like to hit the right set up for me at the first attempt, but i know there's no one who reacts the same . from what i understand, if ever i go with a rx on my dominant eye only , that means i must learn to shoot both eyes open. i use to just blink my weak eye to let the dominant take control of the whole sight-target picture. i'd like to keep the way i shoot as is, but if i have to learn to shoot both eyes open i don't mind . Edited January 4, 2015 by sigsauerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercster Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 If you can ever see competitions in your future, you would be well advised to learn to shoot with both eyes open. While you do focus on the front sight when aiming carefully, careful aiming isn't necessary part of the time. Of course I'm talking about the tactical games including IPSC and lately 3Gun. You need to be able to see a wider view even as you are shooting an individual target. While "runnin and gunnin" you don't focus on one particular area for very long. You might try talking to people in your area that shoot competitively. Eye issues are common and you should be able to get good referrals to professionals close to home. One thing I did was make a series of drawings to help me explain my needs. Ideally you could take a firearm with you but that may or may not be practical. If you are dealing with a non shooter, the person may not clearly understand our applications. On one occasion I took a pistol slide with me to complement my drawings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 If you are just a "little" presbyopic you can easily get by with a +.75 in the dominant eye for your sights. It won't blur you very much in the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 If you are just a "little" presbyopic you can easily get by with a +.75 in the dominant eye for your sights. It won't blur you very much in the distance. i tried one of these pre-rx'd glasses they sell in drugstores . the ones that were a close fit were +75. with these i was able to see the front sight very clearly, picture was cut like it should be ; however at 15-25 feet , the target is blurred with said glasses,where normally i see the target very cut at any distance without glasses . i know it seems like a compromise between the front sight and the target . all this tells me that i might have to learn to shoot both eyes open in matches if ever i go with just one side rx'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Lot of compromises as you grow older !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Lot of compromises as you grow older !!! pfff...lol,if it was only my vision .lower back locking from time to time thanks to my racing years. at one point i asked one stage designer WHY he had to put some targets at knee heights so we have to fold to see them hahaha! Edited January 4, 2015 by sigsauerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 well, i narrowed my option to progressive or mono. my plan is getting the RX lenses ground by decot OR tactical RX. i like the hy-wyd action package ,while i think i'm gonna get 3 lens of different colors RX'd instead of inner clips . while i'm entirely open to suggestions coming from the doc as what solution should be elected in my particular case, i'm tempted by mono RX ; seems it's what works good for 2/3 of the shooters. i'm worried a bit by the headache thingy and also the chance that my brain won't adapt to monocular , sending 2 signals instead of 1 like it should which would mean shooting both eyes open might be awkward. the progressives, . i understand they are told to be seamless transitions from near to far sighting, but since i don't need any far sight correction ,not sure it's valuable. spoke through e-mail already with someone at decot ; he asked for specific measurements,once i get the result i will send them and will see from there. seems decot offers products specifically directed to pistol action shooters ,though i haven't locked my pick as who will do the job, both decot and tactical RX seems to both have valuable expertise with IPSC-USPSA shooters. of course,i'd welcome your suggestions and first hand experiences with the business who got your hard earned dollard . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I'd get a prescription you and your Dr. think may be appropriate and get a cheap pair of glasses from one of the many advertisers and try them for a little while before leaping in on the expensive ones. If it works then go all out. If it doesn't then try another approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 I'd get a prescription you and your Dr. think may be appropriate and get a cheap pair of glasses from one of the many advertisers and try them for a little while before leaping in on the expensive ones. If it works then go all out. If it doesn't then try another approach. hmmm... i may be a little over enthousiastic ; you're right,after reflecting a little more , i think i need to adopt a safer approach in order to NOT throw any cash by the window. if the system we choose works only in a mitigated way, the glasses will be put in the drawer forever !! then, i would have to try the '''other''' option!! wheeew. i'm not in for worthless spendings for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I just had both eyes done (cataract surgery) and that is what I'm going to do. The Dr. who did it is going to give me a prescription on the 14th when I'm in for the final exam. I'll get a cheap pair to that prescription and then after 3 or 4 months go back to my regular Dr., get them checked again, and then get replacement lenses for my regular glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 so many options with little money loll...i need an A to start with haha!. i just hate having to buy the same item twice . in this case i can't afford the old expression '''third is the charm''' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I've had prescription glasses since I was 10 yrs old. I was taught to shoot both eyes open from the start and that worked all the way through 2 combat tours in VN (I'm still here ). I realized a few years ago that nothing was going to work with prescription lenses except reflex sights and both eyes open. I can struggle by with a medium strong eye and distance weak side shooting both sides. I've given up and only shoot open with a dot. Thankfully my "both eyes open" was ingrained into me quite well. Good luck, it's a tough battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgs113 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I would recommend a routine eye exam with a private Optometrist. Print out a copy of this ( http://www.bullseyepistol.com/wong1.htm) and give it to him or her before the exam. See if they will allow you to bring in your gun if so you can be looking right at the sights when getting everything dialed in. As you age up close doesn't work as well as it used to. Sights in focus are most important. Target a little blurry is okay. I like single vision in front of my shooting eye. Progressive lenses work but you're always hunting for that sweet spot. Polycarbonate material is good and safe but if you can find Trivex lenses I like them a bit more. Image is a little more crisp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) my appointment with the optometrist is settled for tonight . i hope it'll only be presbyopia. that way it'll simplify the RX prescription and the solution adopted. decided i'm not going to get readers, i don't need them. i still can read a book as long as i don't hold it too close lolll. Edited January 8, 2015 by sigsauerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMaus Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) my appointment with the optometrist is settled for tonight . i hope it'll only be presbyopia. that way it'll simplify the RX prescription and the solution adopted. decided i'm not going to get readers, i don't need them. i still can read a book as long as i don't hold it too close lolll. Unless your optometrist is a shooter this may not help. I am very short sighted and normally wear multifocals. For IPSC I use single vision lenses with the dominant eye set for the front sight and the non-dominant set for distance. Get your optometrist to mock up what he is recommending and go outside the test room and check that your dominant eye can still see a reasonable image at 25 yards. It is possible to go too strong on the front sight. I have no problem with close work (reloading etc). I have been wearing spectacles since I was 10 years old (now 50ish) and I do not agree with suggestions to use bifocals or inverted bifocals. Also, often reading glasses are too strong. Typically your front sight focus will be in the range of +0.50 to +1.25 over your distance prescription. . Edited January 8, 2015 by BMaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 If you are just a "little" presbyopic you can easily get by with a +.75 in the dominant eye for your sights. It won't blur you very much in the distance. ^this^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) well, finally got my exam performed by the optometrist on thursday. it confirmed that i only have a slight presbyopia with no astigmatism. what i did before is i took the measurement from the eye to the front sight which is 26 inches ,22 to the rear sight. so that gives me 5 inches where i must see very sharply. when i met the doc i've explained my needs and then we went through the exam which confirmed what i though ;a little presbyopia. she explained to me that if i had to get some readers, she would probably prescribes a +1.75, but since it's for a specific application (ipsc-uspsa) we decided to go with less correction since i need to see the targets as clear as possible ,not too blurred. the solution i'm trying right now is 1 contact lens on my dominant settled at 1.25. she also gave me a 1.00 sample for testing ,so i'm experimenting with both lens,and so far i like the 1.00 better ; i see the front and rear sight still very clear,and the targets far away are less blurred than with 1.25. also, my brain-eyes connection works very good, i don't get 2 signals from the brain,both images from my right(uncorrected) and left (with the lens) blends very well , in fact ,it felt great from the word go with the contact lens , and i'm able to see the sight picture very clearly on the target behind, the trick is to leave both eyes open. real test will be in a week at the next match. now i see my front very sharp and i'm convinced i'm gonna gain a little in speed since i gonna be able to see the front get back in the rear notch clear and fast. i'm very,very happy with the result and the solution i'm trying at the moment . i've never thought i was going to end up only with 1 contact lens in my dominant which has been made possible mainly because i don't need correction for seeing far. i want to sincerly thanks everyones who posted their experience and thanks also all for the various advices i got . reading the answers and posts here kind of clarified what i had to look for and narrowed the valid solutions for my particular case....after all, i did all that for only one thing: to see my sights like when i was 20 haha! otherwise i don't really care, i still can read the ingredients in my can of chunky loll. Edited January 11, 2015 by sigsauerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Good - glad it worked out that well for you. I'll post my results in the next week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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