Bill H Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Is there a uniform set of rules for he man class? Are muzzle brakes allowed on the rifles? Any capacity restrictions? Are shotguns limited to 9 rounds? Pistols are .45 I assume. Does 45 GAP qualify? 10rd limit? Thanks for your help! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH6IP Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Bill- All the matches I have seen allow a muzzle brake/comp on the rifle; .308 and 20 rnds max. The shotgun has been either a pump 12 or auto; 9 rnds max. The JP/RM3G now only allows a pump As far as pistol, .45 is normally the choice, but again, the JP/RM3G (as do others)now allows the .45 GAP which makes sense; 10 rnds max. I know alot of people say it should be a single stack only , but there are many fine pistolas out there that shoot ACP or GAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 For "He Man" in the VA/MD section, we follow these rules: Shotgun: Pump only & must be 12 gauge; no optics porting or speedloaders Rifle: has to be 30 cal. or greater Pistol: must be .45 ACP although other "manly" calibers like 10mm, .44 magnum, etc. considered on case by case basis. First match I shot, I used an AK-47 (SLR-95 w/ dual grip setup & 40 round mags), and 870 & a CZ-97B-SA (.45 of course). Second match - same except I substituted a Springfield M-1A for the AK. Check out: www.mpsa.net Regards, D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted January 30, 2005 Author Share Posted January 30, 2005 Thanks for the info guys. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 We are honoring HM division at our local long gun matches now and require a 12 gauge pump shotgun, no bbl porting. A .30 caliber rifle with iron sights, no bipods and major ammo. We have not looked at round limits for HM long guns yet, but probably should at some point. For pistol, I would say that any major PF pisol from .357 magnum revolvers on up should be allowed as long as it holds no more than 10 rounds, has iron sight and no bbl porting. Wanna' shoot a Ruger Super RedHawk .44 mag, or Freedom Arms .454 Casul, no problem. Nothing un-He-Man like about that! The division is still getting sorted out as far as all the diverse matches go, but seems to be universally settling on .30 rifle with irons, 12 gauge pump and 10 round major big bore pistol so far. Details are still being found, let alone settled. -- Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickster Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 We just finished up another "5th Sunday of the month" He-man 3-gun. This would be our 5th He-man only 3-gun match. Average turnout is around 22 shooters. Rules we use are: 45acp pistol (any brand or style) with 10 rounds max, no ports, optics, etc. 308 or 30-06 rifle only, iron sights only, muzzle brake allowd. No bipods. 12 gauge pump, 9 rounds max, no optics, speed loaders, ports or brakes. All kinds of pistols show up. Single stack and hi-cap 1911's, Glocks, Ruger and HK. Most of the rifles are FAL's, some AR-10 types, H&K, M1A's and a few Garands. Shotguns are mostly 870's, followed closely by Mossberg and a few Winchesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardschennberg Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I have a Remington 870 12-guage that will hold 10 shells in the magazine tube. Do I need to plug the it to 8-shell capacity, or is it O.K. if I just load 8+1? Thanks, Richard Schennberg.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 Richard as far as I know there is no rule that states the mag tube can only hold 8 rds just that you can't overload the gun. Of course I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Those matches sound like great fun. Anyone have a list of upcoming matches in the midwest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 For "He Man" in the VA/MD section, we follow these rules:Shotgun: Pump only & must be 12 gauge; no optics porting or speedloaders Rifle: has to be 30 cal. or greater Pistol: must be .45 ACP although other "manly" calibers like 10mm, .44 magnum, etc. considered on case by case basis. First match I shot, I used an AK-47 (SLR-95 w/ dual grip setup & 40 round mags), and 870 & a CZ-97B-SA (.45 of course). Second match - same except I substituted a Springfield M-1A for the AK. Check out: www.mpsa.net Regards, D. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Carlos, Do you ever shoot the 3-gun matches at SCSC near Waldorf MD? I just joined there and am looking to do my first 3-gun match there in August. I'm not sure what I want to use though. If I do "He Man" could I use my M1A, 870, and HK USP? Is there a mag cap on the pistol? If there is, is it just a matter of loading 10 instead of 12? Thanks Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I looked really closely at the major IMGA matches when I was working on the USPSA multi-gun rules. Best advice I can give you is, do some advance recon. Find out what rules will be in effect at the match you are going to. There were a number of variations between (for example) the Superstition Mountain, Rocky Mountain, and Tri-Gun matches, including -- how many can be loaded in a mag -- whether comps are allowed on rifle -- whether shotgun can be auto, or must be pump -- whether there are holster type or location requirements -- etc I'm *hoping* that we'll be able to negotiate a "standard definition" for Heavy Metal before the 2006 shooting season starts... I think it would be good for all of us to cut some of the confusion out of the picture, and grow towards each other. $.02 Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 As I said before, I think it is silly to mandate a 12ga pump shotgun. A 12ga semi-auto shotgun is already making Major, why add to the list of equipment that someone must buy to compete? I thought the whole point of HeMan/Heavy Metal/etc was to use Major-making firearms? I think the SMM3G has the the Division defined correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I thought the whole point of HeMan/Heavy Metal/etc was to use Major-making firearms? Interestingly (?), there's no requirement in the IMGA rules that Heavy Metal guns make "major"... in fact, there's no mention of power factor at all. Have already seen people at (for example) SMM3G that are "playing" with their loads, to reduce recoil.... which *really* seems to be missing the whole point of Heavy Metal. Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I thought the whole point of HeMan/Heavy Metal/etc was to use Major-making firearms? Interestingly (?), there's no requirement in the IMGA rules that Heavy Metal guns make "major"... in fact, there's no mention of power factor at all. Have already seen people at (for example) SMM3G that are "playing" with their loads, to reduce recoil.... which *really* seems to be missing the whole point of Heavy Metal. Bruce <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe there should a power factor requirement for He-Man/Heavy Metal AS LONG AS MATCHES ENFORCE IT which non-USPSA matches are loathe to do. But if there is no enforcement, power factors should not be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I didn't mean this to start a Power Factor discussion for 3-gun matches. True, SMM3G doesn't chrono, as they don't have any PF requirement. My point was/is, that a 12ga shotgun is a 12 ga shotgun, no matter how it is operated. -David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I personally think that the pistol portion of He-Man class should be a Model 29 S&W. With .44mag loads.....not .44 specials. But that is just me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Yeah! 44mag wheelgun, full power 240 grain loads at 1500+fps. Now were talkin' He Man ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisgahrifle Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I think there ought to be an "old-school" sub-class in He-Man where you run stripper-clip bolt guns, cut-own pre-WWII hunting shotguns and revolvers.... now THAT would be neat!!! I've always wanted to be able to justify an 18" barreled A-5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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