troupe Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 The steel grip will stop the stuck mags coming out, but as mentioned earlier if you get lazy on the mag insertion, you will get it stuck. You mentioned that you are squeezing the grip so hard that the grip wont drop. You have one of two problems. One you either have a contoured grip that is to thin, or you are shooting to tense. The metal grip will help and relax more on your grip, you will do better with both. PT is a great group of people to work with, Brian and Tiffany are great. Tommy Roupe THR Technologies/Roupe Grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) One you either have a contoured grip that is to thin, I once had one like that. When you tried it normally - the mag fell out nicely, but with a fast reload your grip is slightly different, and that was enough to keep the mag there. I just asked the gun builder to make another grip, less reduced. The steel grip does not eliminate all the sticktion, you can have it happen for veriety of reasons. For instance, one mag was slightly fatter than the rest around the catch holes - about .3mm, to be exact, and that was enough to get it locked if you pushed the release button all the way. In another case the follower was too fat, rubbing against the frame. But overall the steel gtip is far more consistent. Edited July 12, 2014 by Foxbat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openmike Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Here's a build with a steel grip with regular texture. (Cerakote) Great traction without pain. Really changes the balance of gun fantastically! Far superior....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Death Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The steel grip does not eliminate all the sticktion, you can have it happen for veriety of reasons. For instance, one mag was slightly fatter than the rest around the catch holes - about .3mm, to be exact, The P/T grip has more room around the mag, the .3 mm is .012 or 4 hairs, the P/T grip could over come that obstacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkid17 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 How is the durability of the aluminum compared to the stainless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 How is the durability of the aluminum compared to the stainless? The aluminum grip is plenty durable, even on a limited or open gun running major. I have close to 10k rounds of .40 major on my aluminum grip so far, and it shows ZERO signs of wear or fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 How is the durability of the aluminum compared to the stainless? I have about 10k of 9 Major through mine. No problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc5 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Here's a build with a steel grip with regular texture. (Cerakote) Great traction without pain. Really changes the balance of gun fantastically! Far superior....... NICE blaster !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadoFann Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 I finally got it! I really like it a lot. It fixed my mag ejection problems completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idHawk Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I finally got it! I really like it a lot. It fixed my mag ejection problems completely. Hey ShadoFan... How are you liking that HBar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadoFann Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 It's awesome. I couldn't be any happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Tompkins Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Interesting discussion here. I'm considering a PT AL grip for a new build. I'd like to have it Type III Anodized. Anyone had this done or have any experience with it? I'm researching local shops (save on shipping) and prices but any words of wisdom are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) Not to beat the dead horse - but why would someone today consider the aluminum grip, when steel is available? Aluminum was the norm when we didn't have steel, but, at least in my view, steel is so superior that it seems natural to go for it. Best deal for everyone - more money for the maker, and better feel for the shooter! Edited August 22, 2014 by Foxbat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Tompkins Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Not to beat the dead horse - but why would someone today consider the aluminum grip, when steel is available? Aluminum was the norm when we didn't have steel, but, at least in my view, steel is so superior that it seems natural to go for it. Best deal for everyone - more money for the maker, and better feel for the shooter! The horse is not dead, some applications need a lighter weight grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadoFann Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 My needs are different. I already have a heavy gun with the HBar (tungsten sleeved barrel) so I don't need the added weight of the steel and I like the way it feels. My issue was that I was squeezing the plastic grip when doing reloads and the mag wouldn't drop. Problem solved with the aluminum grip. I also think it looks pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin16 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Shado Fann, Did you Cerakote the Aluminum grip ? Is there a shop you recommend? Your Open gun looks bad arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadoFann Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 The grip was installed and painted by Johnny Lim. He does amazing work and builds a bad arse gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRobson Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 If its just cerakoting something like a grip, just look for someone local. I've cerakoted a few steel grips and they are hard to mess up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I finally got it! I really like it a lot. It fixed my mag ejection problems completely. Hey ShadoFan... How are you liking that HBar? Tell me about your DOT. Cmore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Slightly off topic but if you wre going to build a 9mm open gun to use with major and minor ammo and I am going to use Trinity parts would you use the short dust cover frame and aluminum grip or what combo would work best. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadoFann Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 The Cmore is a Slide Ride moved forward with the back cut off and the switch moved to the side. The modification was done by Johnny Lim. I know someone is going to say "why would you do that and why not tune the gun so it ejects with the unmodified unit?". I know it's possible but I use mixed brass and occasionally one ejects weird and bounces off the mount and back into the ejection port. I also think I occasionally drag my thumb on the slide causing ejection issues. This mount just eliminates that possibility completely for me. I have tried a 90 degree mount, I do not like it at all. I have tried a RTS and liked it but had a lot of problems with the dot size diminishing. I would like to use a RTS if it ever gets as reliable as the Slide Ride. This set up is working good for me for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Death Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Slightly off topic but if you wre going to build a 9mm open gun to use with major and minor ammo and I am going to use Trinity parts would you use the short dust cover frame and aluminum grip or what combo would work best. Thanks The answer to your question really relies in your choice , there is so many combinations you could go with, but I will tell you this what ever PT parts you use , you will be more than satisfied with them, on a side note talk to some other open shooters ask them about there guns, see if they would have done anything different when there's we're built and look at what you think is important in a gun. All of my guns were purpose built, I had my smith put every cut , blend, radius and so on where I wanted, I look at it as my guns are tools to use not for looking at. So put some thought into it, you will make good decisions and you will have a great gun when your done, good luck and post pics when it's done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Thank you ShadoFann. I'm going with the Delta Piont 3.5. I talk with JoJo @ JV Dynamics about it he said the 3.5 is perfect for USPSA and it's warrany is for life. I talked with them too. Lol My appologizes it was JoJo I spoke with not Johnny Lim. Thank you. Edited September 1, 2014 by a matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadoFann Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Thank you ShadoFann. I'm going with the Delta Piont 3.5. I talk with Johnny about it he said the 3.5 is perfect for USPSA and it's warrany is for life. I talked with them too. Lol I have given some serious consideration into looking at a Delta Point 2 with the 7.5 MOA Delta reticle. I don't think they are out yet. Has anyone had a chance to try one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Only issue with the Delta Point 2 is a mount would need to be custom made. Aredondo and JoJo JV dynamics are the only two that make mounts and then only for the first gen DP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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