knedrgr Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) And this just happened today. I believe this might be the first of its kind, since Robin hasn't seen one or know of one that had existed. Edited May 10, 2015 by knedrgr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Taylor Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 G17 FSB: Several of you have asked about creating G17-based FSB guns. I just sent a couple of blocks (one stock, one radically lightened) to a customer who custom-ordered a KKM Glock 34 barrel, threaded to 9/16X24 to match. I shot my prototype G17FSB at the Man Of Steel invitational last weekend and managed to take Top Limited (the top guys shot Open). I had some cycling issues with the prototype last year, but with a sample size of ONE it has been tough to know whether lightening the sight block was the answer, or tuning the load, or whether I was having some sort of break-in issue with the barrel. I do have to gauge my ammo (which is annoying in a Glock), but so long as I feed it gauged ammo, this combo rocks. Built sheet: LWD G34 barrel w/prototype sight block, stock spring, stock rear, Hi-Viz fiber front (green). Running 135-grain MTG RN's over 4.X 231. Ghost rocket trigger, with an old Lightning Strike stainless magwell. I only poke my head in the door of the Forum every once in a while, so ping me direct if you need an answer in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 G17 FSB: Several of you have asked about creating G17-based FSB guns. I just sent a couple of blocks (one stock, one radically lightened) to a customer who custom-ordered a KKM Glock 34 barrel, threaded to 9/16X24 to match. I shot my prototype G17FSB at the Man Of Steel invitational last weekend and managed to take Top Limited (the top guys shot Open). I had some cycling issues with the prototype last year, but with a sample size of ONE it has been tough to know whether lightening the sight block was the answer, or tuning the load, or whether I was having some sort of break-in issue with the barrel. I do have to gauge my ammo (which is annoying in a Glock), but so long as I feed it gauged ammo, this combo rocks. Built sheet: LWD G34 barrel w/prototype sight block, stock spring, stock rear, Hi-Viz fiber front (green). Running 135-grain MTG RN's over 4.X 231. Ghost rocket trigger, with an old Lightning Strike stainless magwell. I only poke my head in the door of the Forum every once in a while, so ping me direct if you need an answer in real time. You know if you had the chamber reamed in that LWD all those chambering problems would disappear. It sure makes life easier but I am sure you already know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I just traded for a Gen4 G17 and am having a hard time fighting the urge to buy a barrel, sights and this shroud to try out for a steel gun.Any specs, costs, etc on the lightened block? Obviously I would want to respring the recoil system and I'll prob put my standard trigger in. But this looks really promising and cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Hell, I might be tempted to have my smith lighten up the slide some to reduce the mass cycling. Man this is really tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Taylor Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 You're looking at about $125 for the barrel, $50 for the block, and a Gen 4 to Gen 3 conversion kit (LWD, Carver, whomever, maybe $40). Tell me you're using it on a Gen 4 and I'll drill out the hole slightly to accept the conversion unit -- because of the larger diameter, it attaches lower than the Gen 3. Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 You're looking at about $125 for the barrel, $50 for the block, and a Gen 4 to Gen 3 conversion kit (LWD, Carver, whomever, maybe $40). Tell me you're using it on a Gen 4 and I'll drill out the hole slightly to accept the conversion unit -- because of the larger diameter, it attaches lower than the Gen 3. Robin Thanks! On my production guns, Gen 4 G34s, I pulled the recoil guts and replaced them with a reducer washer, uncap'd guide rod and an ISMI spring. Would that work for this? I am having a hard time talking myself out of this project gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librarian45 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 So what barrel length do we need to make it work? The way i read the website is a g35 threaded barrel for a g22 slide, right? So what barrel is in knedrgr's super-boss looking ZEV g34/35? I'm having issues with prescription glasses and close front sights, this combo may be a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knedrgr Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 So what barrel length do we need to make it work? The way i read the website is a g35 threaded barrel for a g22 slide, right? So what barrel is in knedrgr's super-boss looking ZEV g34/35? I'm having issues with prescription glasses and close front sights, this combo may be a solution. The shroud is threaded on the front end. So yes, a G34/35 threaded barrel is needed for a G17/22 slide. And the same length is needed for a G34/35 slide. Therefore I'm running a threaded G24 barrel in my G35. As seen in prior posting, Robin has cut down the block for those that wants to run a threaded G34/35 barrel on their G34/35 slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Alright, I am in. I spoke with Mr Taylor last week and ran some questions by him on this. Talk about a nice guy who is super knowledgeable! I was really impressed. I am going a slightly different route. I am going to make a Glock 17L out of a Gen 4 Glock 17 I traded for a while back. I have started putting together and ordering parts. I will do a blog series for our team's website. Hopefully I can get it all running. I plan on using this for Steel Challenge and 3 Gun. Though I may take a breather from Production for a few weeks and run Limited minor for giggles.Here's where I am starting:Pistol - Glock 17 Gen 4Barrel - LWD G34 ThreadedSights - Dawson Precision Adjustable blk rear and FO frontTrigger - Zev Starter Spring Kit and V4 Disconnector (and LOTS of polishing)Recoil Assembly - Zev SS guide rod and ISMI 13lb spring with Zev reducer washerMagwell - Dawson Ice for Gen 4 with Med back strap.The 9mm ammo I run through my production guns, and what I plan on running through is, is 124 FMJ at 128 Pf. Pretty excited about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knedrgr Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Alright, I am in. I spoke with Mr Taylor last week and ran some questions by him on this. Talk about a nice guy who is super knowledgeable! I was really impressed. I am going a slightly different route. I am going to make a Glock 17L out of a Gen 4 Glock 17 I traded for a while back. I have started putting together and ordering parts. I will do a blog series for our team's website. Hopefully I can get it all running. I plan on using this for Steel Challenge and 3 Gun. Though I may take a breather from Production for a few weeks and run Limited minor for giggles. Here's where I am starting: Pistol - Glock 17 Gen 4 Barrel - LWD G34 Threaded Sights - Dawson Precision Adjustable blk rear and FO front Trigger - Zev Starter Spring Kit and V4 Disconnector (and LOTS of polishing) Recoil Assembly - Zev SS guide rod and ISMI 13lb spring with Zev reducer washer Magwell - Dawson Ice for Gen 4 with Med back strap. The 9mm ammo I run through my production guns, and what I plan on running through is, is 124 FMJ at 128 Pf. Pretty excited about this. Sounds like a great plan. Can't wait to see the final build. Are you planing on a regular magwel or one that's specific for the backstrap? Could run a regular magwell and cut the strap, before it goes Into the MW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyinTX Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I've got a G17 that collects dust in the safe that I'm thinking of turning into a 3gun pistol. Anyone who has used this on a 17/22 what holster will it fit in? One for a G34 or do you need one that fits a G17L? Specific to 9mm, as anyone had to adjust loads to make pistol function with the increased barrel weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knedrgr Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 If you have an open-end holster, it should fit into a 17. But if it's closed-end, you'll need a 17L/24 holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyinTX Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 If you have an open-end holster, it should fit into a 17. But if it's closed-end, you'll need a 17L/24 holster. Thanks for the info, so far I don't have a holster. The gun was a deal I couldn't pass up and now I'm just trying to find a use for it. Gonna shoot it in a few matches and if I like it gonna modify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBunniFuFu Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 If you have an open-end holster, it should fit into a 17. But if it's closed-end, you'll need a 17L/24 holster. Thanks for the info, so far I don't have a holster. The gun was a deal I couldn't pass up and now I'm just trying to find a use for it. Gonna shoot it in a few matches and if I like it gonna modify it. Order one for a G24/17L I had to mod a bladetech to fit mine in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knedrgr Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 And this just happened today. I believe this might be the first of its kind, since Robin hasn't seen one or know of one that had existed. Finally was able to run two mags through this new set up, and I'm pretty happy with it. Sight was easier to pick up. Pretty happy with pinging steel head shots at 20 yards. And I was also shooting a more powerful load: 4.1gr vs 3.8gr. So hope the 3.8gr will feel softer and track the sight flatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Robin, any suggestion on what height Dawson FO Front sight to use with this set up assuming a fully adjustable rear is being used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knedrgr Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Robin, any suggestion on what height Dawson FO Front sight to use with this set up assuming a fully adjustable rear is being used? FWIW I'm running a 10-8 Performance sight set with a 0.215" front, and it's hitting POA/POI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Robin, any suggestion on what height Dawson FO Front sight to use with this set up assuming a fully adjustable rear is being used? FWIW I'm running a 10-8 Performance sight set with a 0.215" front, and it's hitting POA/POI. Awesome, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 What tha hell. I guess I have to have one too. You guys cost me a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knedrgr Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 What tha hell. I guess I have to have one too. You guys cost me a lot of money. Bwahahahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 All parts ordered.... Entire week off next week to build and test! WOOO !!!Blog series should be out by the end of next week I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah, got mine on order too. I chose to go with 9mm and .40 to see which one I like the best. TTI sights and several G22 slides to chose from. Dang it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Just a heads up, if anyone else is doing a G17 like I am, you need a KKM barrel with 9/16 x 24m which is a special order. I mistakenly order a threaded g34 barrel from LWD, thinking it would work, but their thread pitch will not work with the TF Sight Block.Sights are in, Robin is been super helpful in getting me squared away on the sight block. I should have that in hand soon.I am going to call Lone Wolf tomorrow to see if they will take this barrel back and calling up KKM to order a barrel with the right threading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Crap! I did the same thing! I ordered a 9mm conversion barrel and had it reamed. I never looked at the thread pitch. Oh, well back to the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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