Zeaken Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I recently finished my light weight 5lb 9oz build (including optics) and I put a battle comp on it and its still tending to rise up and to the right when I shoot it. I am guessing the light weight plays against me a bit over a normal heavier gun. I am trying to find a replacement comp that can do the job a bit better then the battle comp for a light weight build. The catch is I am also looking to keep the comp light to keep the overall weight down still as at the end of the muzzle is where you feel it the most. I was considering the ares effin a mkII, have any of you tried it? I like the idea of a tunable comp and they seem to do pretty well but i have never seen anyone using it in a 3g application. Do you guys have any other suggestions for a lighter comp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Ya, the Dynamic Resistance comp. Light and pretty effective. Available direct from DR, or from Carbon Arms. Do a search on BE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski_dog Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/products/v7-muzzle-brake I think this is what you are looking for. Edited May 25, 2014 by ski_dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/products/v7-muzzle-brake I think this is what you are looking for. Can't say much for the comp design.....not fond of vertical ports like that (just my personal opinion).....HOWEVER......looking at their other parts....HMMMMMM . Ti Gas Block.....NICE Forged upper with no FA or dust cover and a little meat cut off the top......NICE Stuff for light weight builds!!! That being said......Carbon Arms has nice light wt comp and of course, I've got mention ours too....it's supper light. On the other hand....lots been said about comps in the forum....do a search and sort out the heavy ones, you'll find a few that float to the top!! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptoid Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/products/v7-muzzle-brake I think this is what you are looking for. Only if you never shoot prone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george995 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) sjc titan is very effective. edited to add..... May not be the lightest but should be a good compromise IMO. Edited May 25, 2014 by george995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeaken Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/products/v7-muzzle-brake I think this is what you are looking for. Can't say much for the comp design.....not fond of vertical ports like that (just my personal opinion).....HOWEVER......looking at their other parts....HMMMMMM . Ti Gas Block.....NICE Forged upper with no FA or dust cover and a little meat cut off the top......NICE Stuff for light weight builds!!! That being said......Carbon Arms has nice light wt comp and of course, I've got mention ours too....it's supper light. On the other hand....lots been said about comps in the forum....do a search and sort out the heavy ones, you'll find a few that float to the top!! Tim I thought yours was only for .22 for all your comps. I actually just picked up your buffer system and cant wait to try it out with my lmos. how much does your lwc .625 comp weigh in at? v7 does also make some nice stuff. If i was attempting to break the 4lb barrier without sbr it would certainly use a lot of their parts. Edited May 25, 2014 by Zeaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mngunguy Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 sjc titan is very effective. edited to add..... May not be the lightest but should be a good compromise IMO. That's one of the heaviest comps out there at something like 5.75 oz. I have the Carbon Arms/DR brake on a backup rifle that'll eventually move to my lightweight limited build this fall. Works very well and weighs 2.4 oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/products/v7-muzzle-brake I think this is what you are looking for. Can't say much for the comp design.....not fond of vertical ports like that (just my personal opinion).....HOWEVER......looking at their other parts....HMMMMMM . Ti Gas Block.....NICE Forged upper with no FA or dust cover and a little meat cut off the top......NICE Stuff for light weight builds!!! That being said......Carbon Arms has nice light wt comp and of course, I've got mention ours too....it's supper light. On the other hand....lots been said about comps in the forum....do a search and sort out the heavy ones, you'll find a few that float to the top!! Tim I thought yours was only for .22 for all your comps. I actually just picked up your buffer system and cant wait to try it out with my lmos. how much does your lwc .625 comp weigh in at? v7 does also make some nice stuff. If i was attempting to break the 4lb barrier without sbr it would certainly use a lot of their parts. The .625 LWC weighs 1 ounce.....yeah it's light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 The Dynamic Resistance is short and light and a pretty good flash supressor too. The PRI Quiet Comp would be my next choice for a light weight brake. The other two parts of the puzzle are rifle set up and... You. Low mass reduces the pop to your shoulder, but low mass only really works with adjustable gas. The two together really helps make the muzzle movement more friendly. Ultimately, you are the interface. The high right climb comes from you letting the rifle move around your mass. Before spending money on another brake, take your rifle back the range. You can eliminate the high right climb through technique. The muzzle will dance around the center of the target, but you should be able work out the climb. Play around with the rifle in different spots in your pocket. Use your frame and muscles to give the rifle a solid foundation to push against. Your support hand is there for more than just holding up the rifle. Use your support hand to drive the muzzle. You get that figured out and you can pick whichever brake looks the best on your meat grinder cuz they will all work great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter116 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Big fan of the SJC. flat shooting and not that heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeaken Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 thanks for the advice co-exprs, i do run an adjustable block and i will be testing out the new innards with the current comp before i upgrade to see if those make the difference. I will also trying working on my technique a bit more as i am new working with rifles in this sense. That is an incredibly light brake taccom, that is now on my short list of comps i may switch out to as that could save me another ounce over the battle comp! I understand the SJC is a really good brake and have heard lots of good things but it is a bit heavier then i was looking to do. I would say about 3oz is my limit of what i am looking to keep it at. If anyone has used the effin a i am still looking for some advice on that one as well. Thanks for all the help so far guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBJones Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I recently finished my light weight 5lb 9oz build (including optics) and I put a battle comp on it and its still tending to rise up and to the right when I shoot it. I am guessing the light weight plays against me a bit over a normal heavier gun. I am trying to find a replacement comp that can do the job a bit better then the battle comp for a light weight build. The catch is I am also looking to keep the comp light to keep the overall weight down still as at the end of the muzzle is where you feel it the most. I was considering the ares effin a mkII, have any of you tried it? I like the idea of a tunable comp and they seem to do pretty well but i have never seen anyone using it in a 3g application. Do you guys have any other suggestions for a lighter comp? Interesting that your Battle Comp had muzzle rise. I had a 6.5 lb gun (16" mid-length loaded with optic) getting severe muzzle dip with a BC 1.0. Not as noticeable on guns 7.5 pounds+. In my experience (and common sense), the lighter the gun the more influence the muzzle device can have over the movement of the muzzle. I shy away from aggressive vertical ports on light guns. I think the Ares effin a MkII would get you where you want to go since it is tuneable. Just alot of tinkering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeaken Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) a little update for you guys which i switched out to a jp lmos bcg and taccom buffer and redialed my gas system it actually removed all vertical climb but it still shifts a little to the right. I think that the increased percentage of weight moving in the lighter rifle led to heavier recoil impulse and these parts countered that and reduced the percentage back down which in turn fixed the jump. She still pulls a little to the right but i will see if i can tweak the alignment of the comp to fix that. Edited June 1, 2014 by Zeaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbmclain Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Seekins....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Rotate your current comp to between 1 and 2 o'clock. if you are getting no vertical, your gas volume is about perfect. It is moving right because it is off center of your body mass. Rotating the comp to neutralize this should be the ticket. My Miculek comp is clocked to about 1, but my rifle out-weighs yours by over a pound, so I don't need as effective a brake, or as much re-direction. Minor adjustments make a BIG difference on left/ right, so you may overshoot and have to bring it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 According to the comparisons in Front Sight the Miculek comp is one of the top comps for both muzzle rise and recoil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulrick Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Well a really small comp, and light weight is the Rainier Mini Comp.... Here it is next to their XTC comp (about A2 birdcage, maybe a little bigger) Fairly effective, really light and really small, just saying OMG is this thing loud! Even more so on shorter barrels. It is setup for a righty as you can see... Also the DNA collection device at the end shreds your bags, legs, quad seats, and just about everything else that it touches... yeah they're pointy Edited June 3, 2014 by mulrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 IMHO, the best choices are the Dynamic Resistance, Miculek, Gas Hog and Seekins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF5186 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I have found the miculek to be a great alternative to the higher priced comps Although loud is a factor at the range but generally I don't here it at matches...just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 IMHO, the best choices are the Dynamic Resistance, Miculek, Gas Hog and Seekins. The Gas Hog is shipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yes it is shipping. More tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yes it is shipping. More tomorrow. Maybe mine is in a batch coming soon or already available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 The TTO works pretty darn well for it's size ie shorter than an A2. Is it competition comp effective no but it's also much smaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KY1911 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) Miculek FTW...my rifle doesn't move. Edited June 5, 2014 by KY1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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