Clay1 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I just picked up my new G34. One of the main reasons that I bought it over a 17 was that the factory trigger is advertised at 3.5 pounds. On the outside of the box that the gun came in it says 3.5 pounds. The brass that was enclosed with the gun was dated 10-04 so this is a newly produced G34. I have a trigger scale that I use for my rimfire silhouette rifles. It is within an ounce and this has been verified over and over. I took it with me to a gun show two weeks ago and could get a new G17 at one of the dealers tables to break at 5.5 pounds consistently and repeatedly. This G34 breaks consistently at 6 pounds 14 ounces. This is repeatable and consistant and I am quite familiar with this scale and it's use. What is up with this? What would you do if this were your gun and you planned on competing with this gun. I called Glock and the man that answered the phone said to shoot the gun 500 rounds before worrying about it. Do you think that the trigger pull will lighten up to half what it is today because I fired a few hundred rounds through it? I'm not swollowing that one just yet. I'm am seeking info at this point, but I can tell I will get really grumpy really fast if this is not resolved. G34 owners what has been your experience - thanks for the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Hi, Welcome to EnosVerse ! Don't know about the actual values, but I have noticed on my own Glock and those of my friends, that the trigger pull indeed reduces over time upon use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Hi Clay1! The short answer to youy Q is: Glock tells something that isn't true. Their triggers are always much heavier than the standard 3.5 and 5 lbs. My glock17 with polished insides and 3.5lbs. connector breaks at 5+ lbs. too. It will get lighter, but it will never be 3.5lbs without a lightened striker spring and other modifications. Dry fire it a bit and see how that works out. If it doesn't get any lighter, I'd just consider a trigger job. If you do a search, you'll find lots of info about different trigger jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiten Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Someone explained it to me that the "3.5" reference that you see on the outside of the box actually references the type of connector, not the trigger pull. I just visited the official Glock site and it tellls me that the standard trigger pull is approximately 4.5 pounds. See here. Bottom line is that the trigger will lighten up over time. Polishing it will help as well, but I agree with Spook that it will never get down to 3.5 pounds without replacing parts. I ended up with a trigger job by Charlie Vanek, and he performs magic! I now have a trigger that breaks around 1.6 pounds, and I couldn't be happier.... Good luck, Cor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Take it all apart, put some real oil on everything and shoot the crap out of it. Take it apart again, polish the contact surfaces, re-oil and measure the trigger pull again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 My G34 out-of-the-box had a 5-3/4 pound trigger pull with the stock "3.5 pound" connector. Replaced the stock striker spring with a Wolff striker spring, and suddenly it dropped to 3-3/4 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay1 Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 Thanks everyone for the reassuring comments. On the Glock site under specs for the G34 it gives the trigger pull as ~4.5 pounds. So yes, I see where the connector doesn't give you a real 3.5 pound pull. But 6 pounds, 14 ounces really isn't anywhere near 4.5 pounds. I found a couple good links on trigger jobs on this gun and will do those mods soon. Cruiten, 1.6 pounds in a competition handgun would be neat to experience. In a gun that I will shoot IDPA with as well as my home defense weapon I would be asking for trouble. Thanks for making me feel welcome. I ordered Brian Enos' book and a DVD by Matt Burkett on shooting IDPA matches - nothing against IPSC but IDPA is what we have locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberkid Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Listen to TDean, I got a 34 second hand from SRT driver, who had done the trigger job himself. His "trigger job" consister of polishing all the stock parts and it now breaks at about 2.5 lbs consistently. Vanek's are very cool also and if $200 doesnt bother you, give it a try. I know a few people that have em and say they would buy them again in a heartbeat. Personally, mine is just fine how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Did you open up your glock and look at the connector? It should have a little minus stamped on it if it's really a 3.5 connector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Driver Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 There was a little more too it than polishing but not much. Spring work, a couple contour changes, etc but it comes out good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I found a couple good links on trigger jobs on this gun and will do those mods soon. I know that for many people modifying the gun themselves is half the fun. Maybe it says something about my confidence in my mechanical skills - or lack thereof - but considering that simply replacing the stock striker spring with a Wolff spring can cut two pounds off the trigger pull right there, I'm just not tempted to start grinding on trigger/safety system parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Driver Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 The Wolff Reduced Power Striker Spring does cut about 2 lb or so off. But a little polihing works wonders. And you don't need that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay1 Posted December 28, 2004 Author Share Posted December 28, 2004 Six days later and 500 rounds through the stock trigger and I am much happier. Breaking pretty good about 4 1/2 pounds with no polishing etc. I will still polish, not remove metal just slick her up some and replace two springs: the recoil and the striker springs. Rounds are going down the barrel and my finger is getting more use to the trigger. thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the duck of death Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Here's what I did: I polished thru the plating to get really smooth surfaces. Install a lighter striker spring and a heavier trigger spring. Polish the cruciform sear (do not change the angle or round the sharp upper edge), under the cruciform where it contacts the connector, the connector, the firing pin safety (clip off 2 coils of the firing pin safety spring) and polish the trigger bar where it contacts the firing pin safety, polish the part of the cruciform that is the drop safety. Grind the striker arm on the left side at a 45 degree angle and polish the striker where it contacts the cruciform sear. Polish the striker at the back flats and in the front where it will make contact with the channel liner. See: http://www.sportshooter.com/gssf/dalerhea_dremeling.htm Scroll to Trigger Group then Modifying the Srtiker. Ended up with a 2.3lb trigger that cost $18 to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay1 Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 I had to do some follow up on this post. On the first G34 that I bought toward the end of Dec, that trigger is now 3 pounds and 2 ounces after polishing the internals and changing the stock striker spring with a Wolf reduced weight striker spring. Today I picked up my second G34. It is a Valentine's day gift for my wife This trigger right out of the box is 4 pounds 2 ounces and no where close to the 6 pounds 14 ounces of the first gun. The first G34 has a serial number that starts with GRC and the second one starts with GTD. They can't be that far apart in production dates. Anyhow, I suspect with the same kind of work that I put into the first one vs this second one I should be in the 2+ pound category somewhere. I'm just surprised that there is this much difference between the two guns. Same scale, same technique used to test the triggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lndshrk Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I know this sounds weird, but I got myself a tube of Flitz polish from the hardware store and a Crest spinning toothbrush ($6) from the drugstore and went to work and gave my G34 a $0.25 trigger job per the instructions in "The Complete Glock Reference Guide". At some point I will install a Vanek or Rhea, but for the time being, it works GREAT! Give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay1 Posted January 25, 2005 Author Share Posted January 25, 2005 Indshrk, you might have missed this but on my recent post I wrote this: "On the first G34 that I bought toward the end of Dec, that trigger is now 3 pounds and 2 ounces after polishing the internals and changing the stock striker spring with a Wolf reduced weight striker spring." In other words I have done the .25 cent trigger job already. Used a dremel with JB bore compound and it did a nice job of polishing without too much metal removal. The point that I was really trying to make is that it suprised me that there was so much difference between the two triggers of the same model. I also posted my theory that if I do the .25 cent trigger job and spring change on the new G34 that the trigger would come out in the two pound + range somewhere given that it is starting out so much better than the first gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnfst Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Check out Dale Rhea's article on Matt Burketts website... I think its titled dremeling your glock... I have used his trigger bar modification on probably 16 or 17 glocks with a 8lb connector and a lightened striker spring and you end up anywhere between 1.75 and 2.25lbs. Depending on how much polishing you want to do... The 8lb connector gives you an earlier and crisper break.. The 3.5lb connectors brake later and are mushier feeling... I can truly say that it is pretty close to a single action trigger as you can get in a glock..... Always make sure you get plenty of striker/trigger bar engagement. I think the minimum is 55 or 60%. I have never had any problems with doubling or the trigger not resetting given that most of my glocks have 80% contact... Your experience may differ so just make sure its safe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 The variations in Glock trigger pull weights are caused by the different trigger bar nose profiles. The trigger bar can be modified to yield a pull, with the 5 lb connector, that is as light as one with the 3.5 connector. I have gotten Glock pulls down as low as 14 oz. The other factor is which connector you use. The Scherer 3.5 has the heaviest, but shortest pull. Lightest, but longest is the Alchemy. My favorite is the old Glockworks/Gunworks connector. I have a few of these hoarded as they are no longer in business. I tested all of the connectors a while back. The results were posted on the Glock Talk forum. Just remember it is all about leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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