jayjay1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hey CZ-guys, I´m having a ghost holster for IPSC, which fits both pistols, the Shadwo SP-01 and the TS. But I´ve never felt really safe with it, because I´m always unsure if the gun sits tight or not. If you don´t drop in your gun exactly, it might fall out of the ghost holster. I always double check or more, because of that, and that makes me feel uncomfortable with this holster. So I want to change and therefore, I want to get an overview of the competitors. Please no closed holster like Bladetech and others. Of course there is the DAA Race Master (Hanger). And there are some different CR Speed holsters, of which I don´t know what their differences are. Are there some other good open holsters, which I should take into the race? Help would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1valdez Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Love my Race master! It has the best retention out of all you've mentioned IMHO and with a switch of a block you can switch guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludde Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hi, Try looking at that one: http://www.mannyusa.com/Firearms_Training/product/Futuristic_Magnetic.html http://www.suomiase.com/en/ipsc/201-ipsc-kotelo.html (Original manufacturer) I've personally got the DAA racemaster for a CZ 75 SP-01 shadow and I have to admit that it feels a little bit sloppy even in the locked position regardless of the tension setting. The locking block fit around the trigger guard and in the holster is difficult to get solid due to the round trigger guard of the CZs. If I'd buy a holster today I would go for the Suomi Ase holster. Many of my team mates have it and it is a good holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knary50 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Racemaster is good, but you will need two block for TS and SP01 . you have to modify the SP01 block for the TS to fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I love my CR Speed Holsters! The one I use for my TS is just the standard model (same as the 2011) which comes with all kinds of shims and spacers to get it snug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay1 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 I love my CR Speed Holsters! The one I use for my TS is just the standard model (same as the 2011) which comes with all kinds of shims and spacers to get it snug. Ok, so, could you tell me something about their holsters? There are so many. Which would be the way to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay1 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Racemaster is good, but you will need two block for TS and SP01 . you have to modify the SP01 block for the TS to fit Found a video where Saul Kirsch is explaining that, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'll second the Manny Bragg's futuristic Magnetic You can get it here. http://www.mannyusa.com/Firearms_Training/product/Futuristic_Magnetic.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feralshooter Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I like my racemaster and would buy another. Mine has a little bit of wiggle but I'm still confident it will hold the gun securely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) I love my CR Speed Holsters! The one I use for my TS is just the standard model (same as the 2011) which comes with all kinds of shims and spacers to get it snug. Ok, so, could you tell me something about their holsters? There are so many. Which would be the way to go? WSMII: http://www.crspeed.co.za/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=WSMII They're all basically the same holster body, just with different belt attachments and muzzle platforms; the Tanfoglio specific is modified a little, but nothing you can't do yourself. The "World Shoot Model II" is the one with the dropped/offset hanger which is designed for IPSC/USPSA Open/Limited. Edited March 25, 2014 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I like my DAA race master and it holds securely, BUT I think the locking method on my H&S CW5 is a better design. I would highly recommend that holster (NOT the CW6). DAA sell it too, but you might find it cheaper elsewhere in the US. http://www.doublealpha.biz/ipsc-holsters-rigs/holsters/hoppner-schumann-speedsec-5cw-holster?currency=USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay1 Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 @kneeling atllas: Yeah, I saw that holsters on several matches, but never could lay my hands on one. I will try do so on the next match, thank you. Will the WSM II fit the Shadow and the TS? That would be a big plus. @BeerBaron: Nice nickname, I suppose you have German genes? Höppner und Schumann, well, I used a Speedsec 4 several years ago and I liked it. But I trained a lot and then didn´t like the way it treated my weapon. I have it still here in my trunk. I will take an eye on the CW5, thank you, trying too, to get my hands on one. Can I use the Shadow and the TS with the same holster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Yes it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigglemonkee Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 the nice part about the cr speed one is it will fit 2011 and 1911s as well as a TS all without reconfiguring. if you get a cr speed mag pouch the spacer for the tac sport mags also works with 1911 mags really well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 @kneeling atllas: Yeah, I saw that holsters on several matches, but never could lay my hands on one. I will try do so on the next match, thank you. Will the WSM II fit the Shadow and the TS? That would be a big plus. @BeerBaron: Nice nickname, I suppose you have German genes? Höppner und Schumann, well, I used a Speedsec 4 several years ago and I liked it. But I trained a lot and then didn´t like the way it treated my weapon. I have it still here in my trunk. I will take an eye on the CW5, thank you, trying too, to get my hands on one. Can I use the Shadow and the TS with the same holster? yes, actually I do have German heritage. The speedsec 5 is totally different. it's delrin body and locking plate (no metal) so it will be as soft on the gun finish as it can be (obviously it still rubs the gun a little around the trigger guard, all of the holsters have to in order to hold it tight). Being a German shooter perhaps you should try the holster from die fatherland! :) I'm not 100% sure if the shadow/SP01 model will fit the TS, but I think it will. it locks with a kind of C shaped hook that gets pushed down by the front of the trigger guard and the loops around behind the front of the trigger guard to hold it. I think it should work with both, but you'd have to check to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay1 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 yes, actually I do have German heritage. Ha! What an accident, me too!!! The speedsec 5 is totally different. it's delrin body and locking plate (no metal) so it will be as soft on the gun finish as it can be (obviously it still rubs the gun a little around the trigger guard, all of the holsters have to in order to hold it tight). Yes, I know that the Speedsec5 is an "open" holster. Being a German shooter perhaps you should try the holster from die fatherland! :) Well, no, unfortunately I do have the "German disease" and am always looking for the best stuff. On the other hand, some German products might be not to bad, but that´s in the eye of the beholder. What is a German holster worth, when it is suboptimal? I'm not 100% sure if the shadow/SP01 model will fit the TS, but I think it will. it locks with a kind of C shaped hook that gets pushed down by the front of the trigger guard and the loops around behind the front of the trigger guard to hold it. I think it should work with both, but you'd have to check to be sure. Allright and thank you! Greets from Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay1 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Yes it will. Thanks atlas! Well, in the end I think I have to look forward to get my hands on these to make a decision. I will go for it at the next bigger match. Thank you all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo918 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I use the manny Bragg holster for my SP-01, TS, and Czechmate. Awesome holster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator098 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'll give another vote for Manny Bragg's futuristic Magnetic holster. It works great for my 75Shadow, CTS, and Czechmate and never feels like it isn't secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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