ejtineo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I find it very difficult to find where regularly getting gunpowder. Can anyone give me an explanation to this problem, more specifically the 231 winchester Thanks and regards. Edited January 23, 2014 by ejtineo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 All powders are very difficult to come by right now. There has been a powder shortage for the last 1.5 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 1.5 yrs? Since the current president got into office in 2008, I find this estimate to be a tad on the low side. Or did the " or so" take that into consideration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 That is one of the most confusing titles I have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 You must check all sources, on a daily basis. Before I got stocked up, I was checking 2 and 3 times a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintDismore Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've been checking and still can find a thing online. Ben buying local but can't always find what I want. It's frustrating as a new reloader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 1.5 yrs? Since the current president got into office in 2008, I find this estimate to be a tad on the low side. Or did the " or so" take that into consideration? it has only gotten really bad in the last 1.5 years. I had no problems getting powder even during the last shortage...just primers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintDismore Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 What primers are good for 223 that will be run through. I've seen tula and the like but not sure what i should be using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 @OP - keep checking, find some decent online sources, as well as gunbot.net , and be ready to buy as soon as you see what you need. Local gun shops are worth calling as well. Clint - I'm going to assume you're loading ball powder and a 55-62gr projectile..in an AR or other .223/5.56 autoloader/semi? Most ball powder recipes call for 'magnum' primers, which in some cases, may or may not be stronger but will have a thicker cup. Short version is I consider any of the below GTG for AR/.223/5.56 semis: CCI #450 or #41 Rem 7 1/2 Tula small rifle magnum(KVB-223M), or small rifle magnum 5.56(KVB556M) Federal 205 or 205M, AR Match Undecided, but would probably use in a pinch: WSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintDismore Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 @OP - keep checking, find some decent online sources, as well as gunbot.net , and be ready to buy as soon as you see what you need. Local gun shops are worth calling as well. Clint - I'm going to assume you're loading ball powder and a 55-62gr projectile..in an AR or other .223/5.56 autoloader/semi? Most ball powder recipes call for 'magnum' primers, which in some cases, may or may not be stronger but will have a thicker cup. Short version is I consider any of the below GTG for AR/.223/5.56 semis: CCI #450 or #41 Rem 7 1/2 Tula small rifle magnum(KVB-223M), or small rifle magnum 5.56(KVB556M) Federal 205 or 205M, AR Match Undecided, but would probably use in a pinch: WSR Thank you. Good info to have. I did mean to put that it is going to be loaded for an ar. Currently I have blc (2) and cfe 223 powders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) @OP - keep checking, find some decent online sources, as well as gunbot.net , and be ready to buy as soon as you see what you need. Local gun shops are worth calling as well. Clint - I'm going to assume you're loading ball powder and a 55-62gr projectile..in an AR or other .223/5.56 autoloader/semi? Most ball powder recipes call for 'magnum' primers, which in some cases, may or may not be stronger but will have a thicker cup. Short version is I consider any of the below GTG for AR/.223/5.56 semis: CCI #450 or #41 Rem 7 1/2 Tula small rifle magnum(KVB-223M), or small rifle magnum 5.56(KVB556M) Federal 205 or 205M, AR Match Undecided, but would probably use in a pinch: WSR Thank you. Good info to have. I did mean to put that it is going to be loaded for an ar. Currently I have blc (2) and cfe 223 powders Both ball powders, measure fine, and fine for .223. You might want to take the .223/5.56 questions to the rifle section, though. Edited January 23, 2014 by rtp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintDismore Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 @OP - keep checking, find some decent online sources, as well as gunbot.net , and be ready to buy as soon as you see what you need. Local gun shops are worth calling as well. Clint - I'm going to assume you're loading ball powder and a 55-62gr projectile..in an AR or other .223/5.56 autoloader/semi? Most ball powder recipes call for 'magnum' primers, which in some cases, may or may not be stronger but will have a thicker cup. Short version is I consider any of the below GTG for AR/.223/5.56 semis: CCI #450 or #41 Rem 7 1/2 Tula small rifle magnum(KVB-223M), or small rifle magnum 5.56(KVB556M) Federal 205 or 205M, AR Match Undecided, but would probably use in a pinch: WSR Thank you. Good info to have. I did mean to put that it is going to be loaded for an ar. Currently I have blc (2) and cfe 223 powders Both ball powders, measure fine, and fine for .223. You might want to take the .223/5.56 questions to the rifle section, though. Sorry. My bad. Didn't mean to hijack this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I stocked up on powder & primers last spring.. now I buy to replenish my stash... my stash of bullets are down to 27K .. so its time to re-order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 @OP - keep checking, find some decent online sources, as well as gunbot.net , and be ready to buy as soon as you see what you need. Local gun shops are worth calling as well. Clint - I'm going to assume you're loading ball powder and a 55-62gr projectile..in an AR or other .223/5.56 autoloader/semi? Most ball powder recipes call for 'magnum' primers, which in some cases, may or may not be stronger but will have a thicker cup. Short version is I consider any of the below GTG for AR/.223/5.56 semis: CCI #450 or #41 Rem 7 1/2 Tula small rifle magnum(KVB-223M), or small rifle magnum 5.56(KVB556M) Federal 205 or 205M, AR Match Undecided, but would probably use in a pinch: WSR Not sure by what you mean that most ball recipes call for magnum primers. Remington 71/2 are just thicker cup small rifle. # 41 are also thicker cup small rifle.federal 205 are just plain small rifle. 205 match are thicker cup small rifle. None of these are, as far as I know, magnum primers. The Speer manual uses magnum rifle primers for their ball powder recipes.. The others show small rifle primers for their loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 @OP - keep checking, find some decent online sources, as well as gunbot.net , and be ready to buy as soon as you see what you need. Local gun shops are worth calling as well. Clint - I'm going to assume you're loading ball powder and a 55-62gr projectile..in an AR or other .223/5.56 autoloader/semi? Most ball powder recipes call for 'magnum' primers, which in some cases, may or may not be stronger but will have a thicker cup. Short version is I consider any of the below GTG for AR/.223/5.56 semis: CCI #450 or #41 Rem 7 1/2 Tula small rifle magnum(KVB-223M), or small rifle magnum 5.56(KVB556M) Federal 205 or 205M, AR Match Undecided, but would probably use in a pinch: WSR Not sure by what you mean that most ball recipes call for magnum primers. Remington 71/2 are just thicker cup small rifle. # 41 are also thicker cup small rifle.federal 205 are just plain small rifle. 205 match are thicker cup small rifle. None of these are, as far as I know, magnum primers. The Speer manual uses magnum rifle primers for their ball powder recipes.. The others show small rifle primers for their loads. You're correct in that all those I listed above are not all 'true magnum' primers. That doesn't change all of them remain on my 'good to go for !R/.223 autoloaders' list. Some are called 'magnum' (one of the Tulas) but are not true magnum primers in charge, while the cup is thicker. I believe I've seen where the Rem. 7 1/2s were actually labeled as Magnums some time ago. I wouldn't interchange true magnum (by charge) primers with non-magnum/only thicker cup primers on a hot load w/out working back up and chrono-ing, but I would use any of the above for AR and similar usage. If you wouldn't, please explain your reasoning as to why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ 40 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Elections have consequences,vote Stupidly Win Stupid prizes. The up side of the economy,if you can call it that is the firearms industry. SJ 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Athouse Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Elections have consequences,vote Stupidly Win Stupid prizes. The up side of the economy,if you can call it that is the firearms industry. SJ 40 Nobody came here to hear political opinions. Its headed that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejtineo Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 That is one of the most confusing titles I have seen. What's the problem with the title, in case you can not understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Understand I find it hard to. Right order syntax not is for English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohn Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Understand I find it hard to. Right order syntax not is for English. Hmmmmmm......................... Seems to be a malapropism taking place here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 It is obvious that English isn't everyone's primary language in this thread. To those folk, please don't be discouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 It is obvious that English isn't everyone's primary language in this thread. To those folk, please don't be discouraged. Agreed. To the OP, powder is just in very short supply right now. Nobody can get it, so it's not just you. Like Grumpy said, it's been this way for a year and a half and who knows when it will get better. Probably be awhile since every time powder shows up it is sold out in a few minutes. Heck I have 30-40 lbs of powder and when I can get more in bulk I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 No powder do we have. Scarce it is. Go to the Dagobah system you must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk330lc Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Was at a Gun show today in southeast Ohio and a dealer there had a lot of different powders. He had Alliant bullseye, Unique,2400 and different rifle powders ranging in price from $18 a pound to $19. He had Titegroup and Clays for $18.50 a pound. And a ton of other Hogdon rifle powders. I didn't think it was to bad a deal and restocked on several powders. =) I was running really low on Bullseye for 38spl loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayhkr Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Was at a Gun show today in southeast Ohio and a dealer there had a lot of different powders. He had Alliant bullseye, Unique,2400 and different rifle powders ranging in price from $18 a pound to $19. He had Titegroup and Clays for $18.50 a pound. And a ton of other Hogdon rifle powders. I didn't think it was to bad a deal and restocked on several powders. =) I was running really low on Bullseye for 38spl loads. This is what I'm hoping for when our next gun show comes to town. I have 2 chances to nab me some powder this month at one of them! Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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