Nimitz Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I know that I could put a lighter hammer spring & reduced power trigger return spring in the SP01 Shadow that is being built for me to reduce the DA pull weight some more but I'm wondering at what point would I be in the realm of only using Fed 100s? I like the idea of reducing DA pull weight but do not want to get into where I am with my G34 that I must use Fed 100s since they are expensive and really hard to get. The gun will come with a 13# hammer spring and trigger return spring from CZC plus the extended firing pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I used a 13# spring with a regular firing pin before and it lit all primers. Currently I use a 15# just so I never worry about it. Tulas are now my regular match primers, I save the federals for majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 I was hoping to be able to use Tulas for training and then either my remaining stash of Fed 100s or Winchesters for matchs ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 My Shadow ran Winchester and CCI primers (no light strikes) with a stock firing pin, CGW reduced power FP spring and 11.5# hammer spring. Combined with a CGW trigger return spring and CZ race hammer it had a 5.5# DA and sub 2# SA. I think the polishing is just as important as the springs in preventing light strikes with light triggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 sounds good. I wonder if anyone has tried that combo with Tula primers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopPop Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 My setup and results matched up with Atlas's. I've since added a CGW extended FP. As long as I pay attention to primer seating I have zero issues with the newer brass colored Tula SP's. Good thing as it looks like I'll be getting some more from a couple of friends that had no luck in their plastic, striker type guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 ok, cool. I tried Tulas in my G34 with lightened striker & spring and extended FP and still have 7-9 light strikes out of the first box of 100 I tried ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magsz Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 ok, cool. I tried Tulas in my G34 with lightened striker & spring and extended FP and still have 7-9 light strikes out of the first box of 100 I tried ... Your G34 is a G34, not a CZ. They are markedly different systems. IF you feel like you want to go to the CGW 8.5lb spring you're going to NEED to run federals and the extended pin. Anything in the 11.5 and 13lb range is going to be good to go with the harder primers but you MUST seat them extremely well. For peace of mind, i would strongly suggest sticking with the 13 for the tula primers. I run 11.5's and have ignited EVERYTHING ive put through it minus factory tula ammo. With my own reloads using CCI primers i have had a few light strikes but i am still working through this to see if my primer seating depth was off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 I would only be using Tulas for practice ammo so some light strikes are tolerable. I use Winchester in my G34 for practice right now and get 2-3 per 500 which is fine. For match ammo the only primers that light 100% with a lightened striker are Feds. Given the cost difference for Tulas at 25,000/yr the cost savings are significant. I'll probably play around with the 11.5# spring and see if I notice a significant pull weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magsz Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 There is a pretty big difference in feel between the 11.5 and the 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDPMatt Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Anything lighter than a 13# MS makes the hammer feel like it takes forever to fall and makes the DA pull feel really weird. I left mine just as it came from Mink (Automatic Accuracy) and I fire Tula's just fine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I had an 11-ish lb spring with extended fp. it felt light, but i didn't shoot it any better than the 13lb spring, and I had a couple light strikes (on cci primers) out of every 100 rounds. I'm sure those were poorly seated primers, but I went back to the 13lb spring and just stopped worrying about it. It didn't appear to have any effect whatsoever on my first-shot time or accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 My latest set up with a 13# cut 3 coils with ext firing pin and Rami spring , I could run win small rifle primers with 100 % reliable. It's all in the voodoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I run a 3# hammer spring and use cinder blocks for primers....no that's not right. 11.5 extended FP and federals. Tried a 8 and it felt mushy to me and didn't run 100% the way I reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thx for all the inputs. As with my G34 I had to play around with spring combos to get it right so I suspect I'll be trying the lighter springs just to see. If Feds were to become mandatory with a certain spring combo that would make the decision easy as I don't want to have that req't any more ... according to CZC their shipment of pistols arrives this week which means they should be able to clear out all their custom orders by the end of Nov ... not too much longer to wait ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmt Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thx for all the inputs. As with my G34 I had to play around with spring combos to get it right so I suspect I'll be trying the lighter springs just to see. If Feds were to become mandatory with a certain spring combo that would make the decision easy as I don't want to have that req't any more ... according to CZC their shipment of pistols arrives this week which means they should be able to clear out all their custom orders by the end of Nov ... not too much longer to wait ... I think your statement should read "according to CZC a shipment of pistols arrives this week which means they should be able to clear out some of their custom orders by the end of Nov ... not too much longer to wait for a few lucky people ..." I understand it's a very long waiting list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 not what they told me when I talked with them on Mon but I guess we'll see ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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