EngineerEli Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Hey all, So I have a brand new TS 9mm on its way and I have been looking around CZ Custom for what parts to get. This will primarily be for range shooting and 3gunning, maybe limited minor if things get in a bind. Looking at the hammers it appears CZ Custom has wide (for TS and Shadow models) and standard (for everything else). Looking at the hammers it looks like the base is the same width and it is just the .... extension of it... is narrower, can anyone confirm this? I have an SVI I shoot for limited, and really like the light weight hammers that fall really quick. My question is would I be able to get one of the standard hammers and install it into my TS for a lighter weight hammer? Would the hooks be cut the same on both versions? I also noticed they have a low version now, that is intended for lower sights. I may change the sights later on, but I'll probably shoot the fixed ones for a while. Would that lower hammer also reduce the radius of the ark the hammer would follow, therefore quickening hammer fall? Ideally I just want to figure out if I would run into any problems trying to install a standard width low hammer into my otherwise stock TS, well I'll probably put a flat trigger into it too, but for the beginning that would be about it. -Eli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 In case people wanted to take a look at them, here is a link to all of the hammers: http://czcustom.com/CZ-Hammers.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) I have the factory CZ wide race hammer on my TS and it's incredible! I bought it from CZ USA, I would get another but they're never in stock; it looks just like the wide one from CZC, but it looks like they manufacture that one themselves, so I don't know if the hooks are identical.If your question is: "can you use the standard, skinny 75B hammer on a TS?", I would say "yes". I've actually thought of doing the same thing: bobing the 75B hammer down to a little nub and using a 20# hammer spring for a quick snap Edited August 29, 2013 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 standard hammer will work in a TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I've actually thought of doing the same thing: bobing the 75B hammer down to a little nub and using a 20# hammer spring for a quick snap Sweet! I have an old standard narrow hammer from an old CZ that I upgraded I may have to try bobbing it putting it in. I can mess around with the hooks too since it is just a spare. My Though is to consider getting the performance hammer with the narrow/standard with and the shorter one for low sights to minimize my hammer fall time. My only concern would be if the hooks are not cut the same on all the competition hammers. Does anyone know if they are in fact all the same? The one I'm considering: http://czcustom.com/images/products/detail/stdlow_1467.jpg http://czcustom.com/czcomphammerlow.aspx Edited August 30, 2013 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I've actually thought of doing the same thing: bobing the 75B hammer down to a little nub and using a 20# hammer spring for a quick snap The new czechmate hammer is like that and very cool. Edited August 30, 2013 by eerw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspiredm3 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I've actually thought of doing the same thing: bobing the 75B hammer down to a little nub and using a 20# hammer spring for a quick snap The new czechmate hammer is like that and very cool. I'm waiting for this hammer so I can send my TS to you guys for a bunch of work. ANY idea when it's going to be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 WOW, that looks awesome! First I am ever seeing of it. Will that have to be purchased directly through CZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheels Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I installed the competition wide/low hammer along with the flat aluminum trigger in my TS. I also installed an adjustable rear sight and a lower matching height front sight. I did some action polishing while I had it apart. The trigger is fantastic and much better than stock with no creep whatsoever, and I also adjusted the trigger so that is has very little pre-travel and almost no overtravel. It also breaks at a bit under 2 lbs. It is by far the best of all my CZ triggers and I have quite a few of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I've actually thought of doing the same thing: bobing the 75B hammer down to a little nub and using a 20# hammer spring for a quick snap The new czechmate hammer is like that and very cool. I'm waiting for this hammer so I can send my TS to you guys for a bunch of work. ANY idea when it's going to be available? Today!!! https://shop.cz-usa.com/P-40108/Concealed-Hammer-Sa-Only.aspx I just got mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspiredm3 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I bought one. Is it the wide or narrow hammer though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 In relation to the last question, is the bobbed hammer really intended for being light for quicker lock times, or is it intended for canceled carry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) It's a wide hammer. As it comes on the new Czechmate, I don't think it's designed for carry; the idea is a lower reciprocating mass for a quicker lock time. A year ago I would have called you crazy if you told me a hammer was worth $90, but the race hammer was the best mod I've made on my TS, so I just had to try! Edited September 14, 2013 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Would love to hear the results. I think the hammer is very cool and woulc buy it just for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspiredm3 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Would love to hear the results. I think the hammer is very cool and woulc buy it just for that reason. You guys can now expect my TS at your shop shortly, with that hammer along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asimonp79 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I have just installed the SLIM hammer in my TS in one word the trigger became " DAMNNNN!!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspiredm3 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I have just installed the SLIM hammer in my TS in one word the trigger became " DAMNNNN!!!!!!" Oh man, can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDM Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Anybody got a picture of that Czechmate hammer on a gun? I'd like to see a pic of a gun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Looking at that Czechmate hammer, it doesn't seem like it would be all that light??? I just took a standard narrow hammer and bobbed it last night. I took as much off as I thought I should, I tried to leave most of the flat surface that rides along the bottom of the slide during the recoil stroke, seemed like something I shouldn't remove. You can see the weights, I removed just over 18% of its weight and all near the end where it helps the most. My problem now is the hammer strut pin on the TS seem to be staked or what ever you call it, and I couldn't get it out for the life of me. I guess I'll have to get a new hammer strut and pin at some point to give this hammer a try. Second though, Has anyone considered grinding or filling a groove in the middle of the hammer face on the factory TS hammer. For some reason the factory hammer hook goes all the way across, where all the performance ones have an opening down the middle so there are two separate hooks on either side. It would seem like you could reduce creep considerably if you lessened the contact surface of your hammer and sear by 33% or so by putting a cut down the middle. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 I could really go for some help on why I cant get the hammer off the strut. I would love to try the bobbed hammer, and I'm thinking of getting the low narrow CZC hammer but I need to know if I have to buy a new strut and pin, or plan to drill the old pin out or something!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 What size hammer are you using? I use at least a 16 ounce ball peen hammer to drive out pins; that way the hammer does the work and you don't have to swing so hard (less collateral damage ). I've removed a lot of hammer strut pins and never come across one which was staked in. Maybe if it's really stuck you can soak it in penetrating oil overnight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Honestly I am using a wood working hammer, it was what I had near by. Never slipped off and hit anything though! I was pounding on it hard enough to bend my craftsman punch a bit. Is there any better way of securing the hammer/strut to drive the pin out? Looking at either side of the pin, there is an obvious round concave mark, that looks to be pushing the ends of the pin out radially. I can take the gun apart tonight and try soaking the hammer, what exactly do you suggest for penetrating oil? something like pb blaster or just CLP or something else? If it would help I could snap a few pics tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Eli,I use AeroKroil, but WD40 or something similar should work. I also use these punches from Brownells with replaceable tips (http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/punches/starter-punch-set-prod549.aspx): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsevenflhx Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I could really go for some help on why I cant get the hammer off the strut. I would love to try the bobbed hammer, and I'm thinking of getting the low narrow CZC hammer but I need to know if I have to buy a new strut and pin, or plan to drill the old pin out or something!?!? The main spring strut is 5 dollars, and the trigger pin is 2 dollars. Myself for 7 dollars I would have all new parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Anybody got a picture of that Czechmate hammer on a gun? I'd like to see a pic of a gun with it. Mine just came in. I'll post pictures once it's installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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