Steve Moneypenny Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Was playing with a friends open gun. seems like no matter what we can't keep a spacer in a mag that functions right. super glue, epoxy... j/b weld.... how does everyone else do it? only thing untried is double sided tape. but no more room in the mags Does anyone have any suggestions before we go hard core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Steve..in the STI tubes I am using spacers in ( short 126mm) I am not using any thing..they are placed and fitted tight into the tube..these are the plastic ones that come in the STI 9mm follower and spacer kits rtr's mags, I think he sent to Beven and they have what looks like a metal spacer fitted in..not sure if they are welded or not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Bill Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Steve, the spacer should fit in such a way that it should not have more than 1/16 of vertical play (from lips to feet) when installed with the spring/follower/basepad. The spring/follower should hold the spacer to the rear of tube without any adhesive or other stuff. I have been told that Beven's new stainless spacer is welded into the tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.L. Hardy Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 steve, if the spacers are fitted properly they don't require anything. they are held in by the spring and follower or rounds and the base pad and feed lips. i now have stainless ones that are made for me because the delrin ones that were from sti and the ones i made from delrin do not hold up for long the long term. they get battered up at the top by the top round as the slide cycles. bevin also has stainless ones he uses in the same manner. i fit mine so that they lay flat in the back of the mag but can actually move around a little this way i know that they are not binding against the base pad when it is installed. the stainless ones will actually shake around a little when the mag is empty. also when you go to clean the mags you can make sure that trash isn't in behind the spacer by slipping it out and cleaning just like all the other mag parts. good shooting j.l. hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 I'm using the stainless one's and using clear rtv silicone to hold them in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 anyhow it was my mags. The problem is with the pads I use the spacers can move way too much. They can drop over half an inch. They won't rise up high enough to jam it up, but they do drop low enough to cause a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 With stock sti followers & ISMI springs, I have shot 1000's through my sti 38 super mag's w/ zero problems. No spacers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Part of it is I am using 115jhp zero's in my nine so loading them long really does not happen. I have tried to load them longer but then I can't get a good crimp. I am going to try to use the silicone. If it holds to glass it should hold to steel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGE Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 I use Silicon, JB Weld or Tig weld the stainless spacer in place if there are some cracks in the tube itself to take care of. JL is right on with the problems with plastic spacers, they wear out too fast at the top of the mag. I do recomend that the spacer should be attached to the tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 I have stainless spacers in my mags that Beven installed, it appears to me that they are welded in, haven't moved so far. Best part is they stay in when the mag is disassembled, one less thing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 8, 2004 Author Share Posted November 8, 2004 What is the cost of such procedure if you don't mind me asking? (as i am soon to be having a 9mm open gun of my own) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Easiest way to fix it? Buy SV mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 I have STI tubes with delrin inserts. The inserts aren't held in place except for the spring and follower or rounds and the base pad and feed lips. The inserts come out when you take the base pad off. 100% so far (knock on wood). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Well problem solved. I used plain old contact cement and it works wonderfully. I am not using plastic spacers, I am using aluminum spacers that I made. I did not feel that the plain plastic ones were smooth enough. As for SV mags if I could find the tubes at a reasonable price(or at all) I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEDELLCUSTOM Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 i do not use any spacers at all in my own 9mm mags. i have both sv and sti mags and they function flawlessly without spacers. i load a 125gr. zero hollow point bullet at 1.170" oal. the use of spacers has more to do with the overall length of your ammo than the brand magazine you are using. i have heard that most people say that the spacers need to be used primarily in sti mags rather than sv but i have yet to have the need for spacers in either type. if you choose to use spacers, be sure to fit them properly and bevel the backside of the spacer so it sits flush against the inside of the tube. and talking to paul w. the rtv silicone works well to hold them in place. paul also uses the rtv silicone to hold his underwear up while he's shooting but says it sometimes causes a slight rash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 It still beats wearing what you wear Dan. I know it gets pretty cold up there in New York, but wearing an Elk Fur'ed thong just does seem comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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