Agent #1911 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 the rulebook states: Moon clip carrier must: A. Be designed for concealed carry and suitable for all day continuous wear. B. Be worn on a standard belt of no more than 1 ¾” width that must pass through the belt loops on the shooter’s pants. C. Hold the moon clip with enough tension to allow it to be turned upside down and retain it while fully loaded. D. Either be of open top configuration that covers at least 60% of the diameter and100% of the cartridge height and retains the moon clip by tension and a stud that protrudes through the center of the clip, or retain the moon clip with a snap or Velcro closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Same type that I have used since 2006.. I did trim the center post down to seat the moon clip a little lower.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Same type that I have used since 2006.. I did trim the center post down to seat the moon clip a little lower.. since the rulebook does not mention how long it should protrude, do you think the stud on mine is ok? I sent IDPA HQ an email and awaiting answer. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 well... still no reply from IDPA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I set a 9mm bullet in the center. It protrudes through the clip. I dont see how anyone would argue that it doesnt. Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COF Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The trick is to keep it on your belt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The trick is to keep it on your belt... i use duct tape on the backside from the clip to bottom of holder..seen some shooters use velcro to their uspsa belt ..seen 1 pop riveted on a belt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeidaho Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 From the picture, it seems that it covers 2 of the 6 spaces between the rounds. To me that is 33% not 60% of the circumference. What am I missing? kr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcman Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) From the picture, it seems that it covers 2 of the 6 spaces between the rounds. To me that is 33% not 60% of the circumference. What am I missing? kr It "covers" 4 rounds- 2 front, 2 back, thus it tis good to go. I use those moonclip holders and modified mine with 15cents of parts from the hardware stote. I knocked out the factory center peice, put a bolt up through middle and topped it off with a nylon nut lik is used to secure toilets to the floor. Passed inspection at nationals with no problem although he did check for the stud when he didn't see it (white on white). I think the OP's "stud" would pass inspection. Edited April 6, 2013 by sbcman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeidaho Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 sbc, I am glad it is considered legal. However, if doesn't really meet the rule as written. The rule doesn't mention covering 2/3 rds of the rounds, rather 2/3rds of the circumference which it calls diameter. Confusing indeed. Thanks, kr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Can anyone post a top view of this contraption? If I'm reading the picture right, at the furthest extension of the steel, the carrier covers about 1/2 of the cartridge on the left, about half of the cartridge on the right, and none of the cartridge in the middle. If I assume that the other side looks the same then we have on the back (towards the shooter) 1/2 cartridge, space, 1/2 cartridge covered. On the front (away from shooter) we have the the same coverage. This looks a lot to me like about 2/6 coverage, which is not even close to 60%. At the minimum extension of the steel coverage (down near the bullet), it covers less than half of the cartridge on the left and right. This is less 2/6 coverage, and is likely what the rule writers meant when they said "cover 100% of the cartridge height." Not cover some with a little extension, but cover 100% of the height for 60% of the circumference. Hmmm. Yes, I know these are commonly used and pass equipment inspections at state and national matches. They just don't seem to even come close to covering 60% of the circumference. Edited April 9, 2013 by Steve Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Nesbitt Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Except for the length of the stud, this is the holder pictured in the rule book as legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Except for the length of the stud, this is the holder pictured in the rule book as legal. Exactly, yet there is somehow a debate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Bill & Seanc - Yeah, I know. But it doesn't jive with the 60% text. It wouldn't be the first (or second) time a picture in the rule book didn't match the text. Can you post a top view picture of your gear? Thanks, Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/284/284503.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.midwayusa.com/product/284503/california-competition-works-moon-clip-belt-holder-for-6-shot-full-moon-clips-white-nylon-center-steel-silver-package-of-2&h=660&w=880&sz=92&tbnid=7uR9Tx0n4E5vwM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&zoom=1&usg=__gf2raZBuOtwGbPfyZwA50N63Xq8=&docid=75w7NhoacMe_dM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IMhkUbiZKZKCyAHer4FY&ved=0CE8Q9QEwBg&dur=4793 Edited April 10, 2013 by Steve Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Will go and dig them out ..hold on.. Edited April 10, 2013 by GmanCdp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Ok,how is this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) 2 outside are the old style ready tactical,modified on left,plain on right.. In middle is a Blade Tech holder with a tek lok belt attachment .. Of course it's ok to use it for monthly matchs.. Right?? I mean it's just monthly match and it won't hurt using this ..right?. LOL.. Edited April 10, 2013 by GmanCdp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) But when you look at the holders from a side view,level on the belt,you would only see 2 cartridges.. Edited April 10, 2013 by GmanCdp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Tompkins Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 When viewed from the front, >60% of the DIAMETER is covered and it has >100% vertical coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Rob, Good thinking. Maybe that is the idea. Maybe the diameter wording is correct. Just a cross wire on where to view it from. Koski Edited April 10, 2013 by Steve Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COF Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 2 outside are the old style ready tactical,modified on left,plain on right.. In middle is a Blade Tech holder with a tek lok belt attachment .. Of course it's ok to use it for monthly matchs.. Right?? I mean it's just monthly match and it won't hurt using this ..right?. LOL.. I combined the two of them. The belt clip broke on one of my Ready Tactical holders so I cut the face off the old Blade Tech and attached the teklok to my Ready Tactical. It ain't pretty but it works good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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