reneet Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 Just wondering what everyone else is doing on this stage. We shot it at a club match last month and I wasn't aware that it was from nationals. Got 55 !@#% points and 2nd Limited on the stage! Shot through it a few times with Jerry M. yesterday and ranged from 50 to 70 points. Jerry is averaging down only 25-30 points with his revolver! What are your best & worst runs and with what gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 here's the link http://www.uspsa.org/results/2004/US_Handg...d_Standards.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLefty Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I shot it in practice a couple of weeks ago. Threw one shot completely off the target for a total of 20 points down. This was with my open gun. Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I played with the 25 yard portion the other day.. it's going to be tough to hang them all in there, especially on the strong hand section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Is stacking allowed? Procedure:String 1: 1 each freestyle reload 1 each freestyle 25 yards, 5 sec String 2: 1 each freestyle reload 1 each strong hand 20 yards, 5 sec String 3: 2 each freestyle reload 1 each freestyle 15 yards, 5 sec String 4: 1 each freestyle reload 1 each weak hand 10 yards, 5 sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Nothing else to do in Fixed Time besides shoot Alphas. If I tank it, I'm going to ask the Range Master to throw out the stage. US 1.2.2.1 Standard Exercises” shall not require more than twenty-four(24) rounds to complete, or more than six (6) rounds for each component string, or twelve (12) rounds if a mandatory reload is specified. Mandatory reloads, posi-tions, and stances may be specified. I get the feeling they might wise up and make it 24 rounds by fixing the 15 yard string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Shot it at the club match. I did not think it was too bad. If you shoot 3 Alphas you get more points than shooting 4 deltas. So the secret is get the A's. Misses are not penalized on fixed time stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Shot this one last month, WAAAY too fast, Key here is to slow down a bit and get your hits,Time wasn't much of a factor, no over time shots just a whole lota misses Ivan SCS Vegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Renee, How many rounds are you getting off? What kind of hits are you getting? Are you going to get more points consistently, by not even attempting the reload on some strings? This stage won't be hit factored --- whatever you score on the targets will be your point total for the stage. Given my sucky draw and reload/transfer I'd get the mag seated at the five second mark on all of these strings. My approach will be to use the time to shoot Alphas..... At the MASC this year the time limit was a generous eight seconds to draw, fire one each at six targets freestyle, reload and fire six stronghand from about eight to ten yards. Then moved up to the four - five yard line and did it again weakhand. I reloaded on both strings, got nine rounds off on the stronghand, all 12 on the weakhand string.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted September 2, 2004 Author Share Posted September 2, 2004 Is stacking allowed?Procedure:String 1: 1 each freestyle reload 1 each freestyle 25 yards, 5 sec String 2: 1 each freestyle reload 1 each strong hand 20 yards, 5 sec String 3: 2 each freestyle reload 1 each freestyle 15 yards, 5 sec String 4: 1 each freestyle reload 1 each weak hand 10 yards, 5 sec No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted September 2, 2004 Author Share Posted September 2, 2004 Renee,How many rounds are you getting off? What kind of hits are you getting? Are you going to get more points consistently, by not even attempting the reload on some strings? This stage won't be hit factored --- whatever you score on the targets will be your point total for the stage. Given my sucky draw and reload/transfer I'd get the mag seated at the five second mark on all of these strings. My approach will be to use the time to shoot Alphas..... I played with it this afternoon with the thought of possibly not doing the reload on some strings. @ 25 yards w/o reload 13-15 points w/ reload 17-26 points (sometimes close to or over time) @ 20 yards w/o reload 13-15 points w/ reload 14-23 points @ 15 yards w/o reload 20-27 points w/ reload 30-38 points (sometimes close to or over time) @ 10 yards w/o reload 13-15 points w/ reload 18-26 points My best run today was 71 points and I failed to seat the mag on 10 and 15 yard strings so did not get off 6 shots. Jury is still out. I'll shoot it both ways for the next few days and see what gives me the best results. Kay's last run today was 6 points down with a miss! Makes me want to grab an open gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Several of us are going to run this stage this weekend. Should be interesting to see the outcomes....my curiousity is killing me! I ran your numbers Renee and came up with this.....looks like the reload pays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopalong Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Shooting B class revolver now, tried this thing yesterday..... Ran overtime after the reload on all strings and didn't have real good hits turned around and took my time and shot all As and did not even try to reload 75 points no OT !!!!! For me this is the best way to do it, if the others (revolvers Jerry excluded as he can do this! ) want to try and get some shots off and run over and get the penalty go for it and good luck. I will take my 75 points and go to the next stage..... Good Luck all at Nats. Hopalong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 I shot the reload standards at 81 points. I did not worry too much about the time, just getting good hits and not penalties. I made sure not to fire any late shots. Its not a great score but it works well to keep from killing your overall. At the MASC I shot the standards at 102 points and got off all my shots easily, had some poor hits though, and a miss weakhanded. For some reason I felt like I had to rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 It looks like this will be on turning targets at the Nats.. that'll help with the overtime issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 for us mortal Production (minor) shooters w/o mag well, pretty much a no-brainer until you get to the 10 y line... --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 I think shooting 100 points in Production is doable. I think I'd be happy with anything 85 and above. Should be able to get 20 points each on string 1 and 2. 40 points on string 3, and at least 20 points on string 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Just a funy aside; I shot a turning target standards at teh 01 SSC at Barry. I was the only guy to get a reshoot. HOW??? The last shot I fired on string two hit the target just as it edged.....and cut the head clean off. I got pictures and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 It looks like this will be on turning targets at the Nats.. that'll help with the overtime issues. Can anyone explain what the impact of turning targets is on a stage like this? Advantages/disadvantages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Visual start...no penalty for overtime shots(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Some of us think that the visual start clue makes for a quicker reaction time and therefore a faster draw; some of us think the opposite. Certainly, you can see the target begin to turn to disappear and overtime shots (penalties) should be non-existent. Also, this will likely be a common firing line with multiple shooters in your peripheral vision and you will hear their shots going off. Just a little distraction compared to the usual stages. Don't turn it into a race or a shoot-off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted September 2, 2004 Author Share Posted September 2, 2004 Just a funy aside; I shot a turning target standards at teh 01 SSC at Barry. I was the only guy to get a reshoot. HOW??? The last shot I fired on string two hit the target just as it edged.....and cut the head clean off. I got pictures and everything. I was just going to ask what the current rules for radial tears is. I figured it as least scores one of the highest rings it hits. Is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Radial tears on a turning target count for the highest scoring area that they cut into, if you slice the target in half with a bullet then it's an 'A'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dunn Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I think it would be possible to only get a B hit if you cut the head off below the A zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Buff Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Isn't there a rule 'bout 2x< calibre hole goes as a miss....???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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