ChrisG164 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Do you look at the magwell when you reload your magazine, while training? I would think it helps if you get used to doing it without looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I try to look at the magwell everytime I reload, dryfire and live fire. About the only exeption is when I am trying to get around a wall or something tight while reloading. Even then I kind of watch it but out the corner of my eye, the only reason for taking my eye off is so I dont run into anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Look at it. It helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpygravy Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 But if you really want a challenge while dry firing, do it blindfolded or eyes closed. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) My take on it - just like the shooting itself, see what you need to see to do the reload. Doing it without looking shows how well you may have it grooved in, but only in whatever way it is that you are practicing your reloads (usually in dryfire, standing upright, static, usually with empty magazines). On a field course we are reloading dynamically, with the position of the gun post recoil, the movement of the body, the relative position of the torso and arms vs the waist (where the now fully loaded mags start from) all varying each time we go for a fresh mag. I can do standing reloads blindfolded pretty well. But, once I move or change my position, it gets iffy. When I'm being conscientious, I'll try to practice reloads with movement, and mebbe, if I can replicate that exact same movement on a field course, I can rely on the programmed kinesthetics to get the mag in, but it's a surer thing to use the eyes. My two cents... Edited November 2, 2012 by kevin c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyg19 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) My take on it - just like the shooting itself, see what you need to see to do the reload. Doing it without looking shows how well you may have it grooved in, but only in whatever way it is that you are practicing your reloads (usually in dryfire, standing upright, static, usually with empty magazines). On a field course we are reloading dynamically, with the position of the gun post recoil, the movement of the body, the relative position of the torso and arms vs the waist (where the now fully loaded mags start from) all varying each time we go for a fresh mag. I can do standing reloads blindfolded pretty well. But, once I move or change my position, it gets iffy. When I'm being conscientious, I'll try to practice reloads with movement, and mebbe, if I can replicate that exact same movement on a field course, I can rely on the programmed kinesthetics to get the mag in, but it's a surer thing to use the eyes. My two cents... That is a concise summary followed by a great explanation and analysis. Edited November 2, 2012 by Garyg19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The only reloads I remember in a match are the ones that go very bad. Is that normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Start practicing them S L O W until you can do 100 perfect reloads. Notice the orientation of the gun, how much inside the frame you can see, and how your hand orients the magazine. Then go to medium observing the same attributes for your reloads. Before going lightning fast, I would then work on reloading while running in all directions (NSEW), as well as off a table. Only then, now having the understanding of the mechanics of reloading YOUR pistol that you may be able to quicken the process. Some perspective: I have reloaded my Glock 34 easily over 100,000 times over the years and still missed on rare occasion. I have reloaded my CZ that I have had for less than one month 5,000 times and I miss often when I push it. (but I am seeing steady improvements). The more time you spend with your gear, the better acclimated you will become with it's needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I normally start every dryfire practice with little drill. Draw and fire two rounds at the "a"zone, reload and two more to the "A" zone at about 10 ft with 1/3 size target against par time. When I do that I'm mostly just using the reload as part my warm up. After that I just try to work the reloads into my normal drills as part of the drill and not the only thing that I am worried about during the drill. Your reloads will speed up in a hurry if you make an honost effort to improve the reload with a lot of dryfire practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drivingit Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 One thing I have done is to paint, using "white out", a small rectangle (or square) on the inside bottom of the mag well. This seems to help my focus of looking for the white mark while I am moving the magazine towards the mag well. The extra focus actually makes my reloads faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 No no no. Eyes closed reloads are a terrible, terrible idea. You must always look the mag into the gun. Must. Yes, you may be able to do them blindfolded or whatever, but why? Every time I see a shooter miss a reload, it's because they didn't look at what they are doing. More later.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Bigfish, I would highly recommend warming up with the Burkett Reloads before moving on to the full reload... Youre actual reloads will be soooo much moregooderbetter after a real warmup. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpygravy Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) No no no. Eyes closed reloads are a terrible, terrible idea. You must always look the mag into the gun. Must. Yes, you may be able to do them blindfolded or whatever, but why? Every time I see a shooter miss a reload, it's because they didn't look at what they are doing. More later.... You know, after reading this, Kevin's reply and thinking through it, I've changed my mind about the blind reload. Sure, it might be a nice parlor trick, but it doesn't apply at all to what I hope to achieve during a COF - unless the COF states I have to wear a blindfold . I've been shooting single stack lately and reloading a lot. I rarely miss a reload but when I do, it's because I went looking for the next target or something before I see the mag into the gun. Sort of like the wide receiver looking upfield (or for the strong safety) before catching the ball. As long as I have eyes, I might as well use them. Edited November 7, 2012 by lumpygravy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Yes yes yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Bigfish, I would highly recommend warming up with the Burkett Reloads before moving on to the full reload... Youre actual reloads will be soooo much moregooderbetter after a real warmup. SA Will give it a try, my reloads are pretty fast but can be inconsistant every once in a while. Thats been something that I've really been trying to clean up. I've noticed that at alot of the local matches with static stages that a good reload is about the easiest way to lower a stage time. Spit times might vary .1 seconds or so per shot but if someone can save .5 seconds on a great reload vs a good reload thats huge on a 3 or 4 second stage Edited November 8, 2012 by bigfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 No no no. Eyes closed reloads are a terrible, terrible idea. You must always look the mag into the gun. Must. Yes, you may be able to do them blindfolded or whatever, but why? Every time I see a shooter miss a reload, it's because they didn't look at what they are doing. More later.... You know, after reading this, Kevin's reply and thinking through it, I've changed my mind about the blind reload. Sure, it might be a nice parlor trick, but it doesn't apply at all to what I hope to achieve during a COF - unless the COF states I have to wear a blindfold . I've been shooting single stack lately and reloading a lot. I rarely miss a reload but when I do, it's because I went looking for the next target or something before I see the mag into the gun. Sort of like the wide receiver looking upfield (or for the strong safety) before catching the ball. As long as I have eyes, I might as well use them. Sorry for the late reply but... YES! That's the answer I was looking for.. Thank you for the input.. I honestly wasn't sure if it might help or not. As stupid as that might sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Bigfish, I would highly recommend warming up with the Burkett Reloads before moving on to the full reload... Youre actual reloads will be soooo much moregooderbetter after a real warmup. SA "Burkett Reload" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Drill 7 book 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Drill 7 book 1. Oh come on! That's unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Free advice is a bad business model. Just kidding, lemme get to proper keyboard and I'll explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Steve, no worries, I found this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdlarkin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Anybody know the timer used in that video? Nice that it just keeps beeping without having to press the button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 One thing I have done is to paint, using "white out", a small rectangle (or square) on the inside bottom of the mag well. This seems to help my focus of looking for the white mark while I am moving the magazine towards the mag well. The extra focus actually makes my reloads faster. Remember that if you do that in a match shooting Production, you are in Open..... I used to have a landing strip, got rid of it (as a production shooter) and my reloads are just as sharp and fast without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) What is the purpose of doing a burkett reload as opposed to a full reload? Edited November 17, 2012 by ChrisG164 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonovanM Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 What is the purpose of doing a burkett reload as opposed to a full reload? More efficient training - you get more reps doing the most important, and most often missed part of the reload. I would also not recommend doing reload practice with a timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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