Flexmoney Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 http://uspsa.org/classifiers/03-16.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Open hit factor of 6.9037 came back at 82.4608 per cent. The key to this classifier is getting to the gun. One of my friends shot a 6.3724 in Limited for a 71.6894%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Interesting...the HHF for Limited is about half a point higher than the Open HHF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Jake: I noticed that too. I am guessing something ain't quite right. I'll check another set of figures. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Has anyone ever confirmed what the true HHF's are for the divisions? We shot this Sunday at our club and I did not realize on my hhf cheatsheet the #'s could be wrong. I only needed 1 more good one to get the G card in Lim10, and I was hoping this one would be it. My match run was ruined by a hard cover hit, so I reshot it (a few times) to get a 8.6560hf. As many times as I shot it, I experimented with it. It was faster for me starting on the right, and finishing on the left. I think that is due to I'm righthanded and it is easier to get to that target vs. the left one. The last run I had when I knew I had it (according to my #'s) was 38pts in 4.39sec. I wonder if Open and Limited hhf's are swapped? That would be about right cause I think my heroic run is only worth a 97.379. I would love to see this one shot faster, cause that's all I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTerry Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Matt - in your experiments did you try taking the left and right front targets then running down range and point shooting T3 and T4 to take the no-shoots out of play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 That did cross my mind, but that would be a huge hit on the hit factor, so no I didn't do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhurd Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Geez old sucks, I wish I could outrun bullets....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Well, my run came back as a 100%, so my #'s are wrong or HQ fixed theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I shot this todayL-10, a few times. My 2nd run was 4.87 sec. with 36 points. I pulled a Delta on the right target. Anyway, if MM #'s are correct that should come in at 85.399% I hope so, since I shot like dog poop for the majority of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Hmm.... I keep redoing the math, and if MM's run is 100% (which it is) then my run should be right at 85%. USPSA has it listed as 97%. WTF. I will be calling USPSA later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 MM's run may be way over 100%.. they artificially clip at 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderstick Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 do you shoot this standing or sitting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bberkley Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Took this from left to right standing up. Production 5.99 sec, down 12 points (4 A's, 2 C's, 2 D's) HF 4.6745 Looks like its going to be the one that gets me my B Card for Production. I really don't care for the targets not canted towards the shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heiter Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Ummm, question. Are there two versions of this stage floating around? The one on the USPSA website says the top is to be 20 inches wide by 12 deep while the one at the top of this thread says 20 deep by 12 wide. I was getting ready to build this "cigar box" for our match tomorrow and was confused that the box described on the classifier sheet I just printed from USPSA's website was impossible to build. I'm going to build it to the specs of the one in this thread and hope that it's right. It's at least physically possible which is a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rhines Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 32 points in 6.42 seconds for a moderately lousy 56.07% If I'm going to throw shots, I may as well do it fast. - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ummm, question. Are there two versions of this stage floating around? The one on the USPSA website says the top is to be 20 inches wide by 12 deep while the one at the top of this thread says 20 deep by 12 wide. I was getting ready to build this "cigar box" for our match tomorrow and was confused that the box described on the classifier sheet I just printed from USPSA's website was impossible to build. I'm going to build it to the specs of the one in this thread and hope that it's right. It's at least physically possible which is a good start. I haven't looked at it John. But, I think the diagram at the start of this thread is a direct link to the "gif" image that is on the USPSA site. (And, I think you might ahve been the one that provided those gif's?) Perhaps the pdf file and the gif are different now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerosigns Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I have a question for everyone about CM 03-16. How did you run the course. I have this one coming up in January, and am concerned about the outside targets. They seem very flat to the shooter and requiring a lot of lateral movement. I am fairly new at this game, and this is my first time with a seated obstacle. I am shooting this in L-10 and Revolver. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I could be wrong, but I believe they (USPSA) have changed the layout of this COF. Maybe check on the USPSA websiteto see if the layout they show is different as the one at the begining of this thread. As it is, I just stood up, grabbed the gun and shot everything from where is was standing. Yes, you are shooting at a narrow profile of the target, but remember the highest area the bullet hole touches is what scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerosigns Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I checked on the layout, and it looks the same. As shown the targets would only be 4 foot in front of the shooter, and 12 foot to the sides. As it is shown, that even seems to come VERY close to 180. The RO would have to be pretty snappy. This will be an indoor range, and I figure that puts you firing directly at the side walls. The drawing doesn't designate any foul lines. So I must assume that we will go as you said. Did you stay seated or stand? I will be shooting both L-10 and Revolver. I find in practice the L-10 doesn't matter, but the Revolver is a little easier to reload standing. If you don't know what a Revolver is, watch the History Channel. They show them there sometimes. For now in my practice though I will assume that the shooter is able to stand still and shoot. Thanks again for the quick answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 There's nothing in the stage description that says you have to shoot while seated, so you can stand if you wish. We elected not to run this one at our indoor range because of the side targets. I can easily imagine the walls (concrete block) taking a bad beating from the almost-perpendicular impacts of the rounds. Once that cratering starts, you could have a round come back up range or go through the wall completely. The neighbors might get miffed at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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