AikiDale Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I saw a quote recently from TGO that pretty much sums it up: "It's not whether you win or lose. It's how bad you beat the guy in second place." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I have taken the option to not attend any major matches untill I recieve my B card. I'm glad I didn't do that too ... I'd never, ever get to shoot a major match if I were waiting for a B card to arrive in the mail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I know some folks get nervous on classifiers and they tend to tank a classifier once in a while, and I can understand that. On the flip side, I have (only twice) seen a known or suspected sandbagger slow down on classifiers just enough to stay in class, but shoot well enough to gather up enough match points so as not to jeopardize the win in their class. That kind of behaviour is pretty bush league. As for the "paper masters", tightloop pretty much nailed that one. The stand and shoot classifiers have little to do with performance on a long field course. I am not the fastest at sprinting 15 yards to a low port then squatting down until the family jewels are dragging on the ground. However, I can shoot the Mini-Mart, or an El Pres. or Front Sight in 5 seconds and change. I am the first to admit my five M cards are not a good predictor of possible overall match performance. I guess I am cursed by being able to stand in Box A and shoot faster than a rabid dog can slobber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Is this really a problem? Anyone who goes around trumpeting that they're C-Class King is pretty damned pathetic. That should say everything that needs to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 the C on my card is a badge of shame untill i can get to B.... im doing pretty good, i get about 95 percent of the HF limited B shooters get on the same stages... C class is a good starting point, but i dont think any healthy shooter should be proud of C, kinda like a C on report card...shame. there is a local shooter that shot area 4 at nearly 60 percent, but claims he should be in D open......sandbagger wannabe or idiot?? I think they should do away with D class and list everyone under 40 percent as unclassified... kinda give them a little incentive to get classified better. thats just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipster Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I think we all have seen and know who the sandbaggers are. In my neck of the woods we have a shooter who consistently shoots in the 75% range on most all of the stages except the classifier, 50-55% would be a high classifier, and if we have a special classifier match in the area you can bet this person won't be there. So what do you do to the few that abuse the system? DOG them, SHAME them, what ever it takes, it's our sport. Just my 2 cents worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 DOG them, SHAME them, what ever it takes, it's our sport. Just my 2 cents worth. It can take years, but it can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted August 13, 2004 Author Share Posted August 13, 2004 edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 If everyone at the range knows this guy is a sandbagger, what you should do is go get some sandbags and place them around his car. Back when I was doing collegiate cycling, my teammates did this to one guy. He was a junior national champion in duathlon, but started racing in the lowest category. He won every race he entered for a while. Then after the sandbag incident, he moved up 2 categories and still won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 I suppose the best way to avoid having to shoot with a bunch of sandbaggers in your class is to move up to M or GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dunn Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 I know two sandbaggers in Master class (Sam and Ron), they will protest, but don't let them fool you! I will continue to grandbag in A class until demoted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Ignore them and shoot. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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