usmc1974 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 So all things costing the same Mossberg 930 or Remington tac 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Mossberg..... by a wide margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Springer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'd sooner throw a handful of shot at a popper before I ever shoot another Remington Jam-o-Matic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Remington by far as longas it starts with Versa-Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Remington by far as longas it starts with Versa-Max The Versa-Max "seems" to be a really nice shotgun - especially for those who are doing the 2 at a time loading.... Ty Gentry is shooting one and his M2 is in the closet - at least for now. I am interested in seeing how it fairs after a "few" more (tens of) thousands of rounds are run through it.... When I see Kort Mueller with one I will know it is really ready for prime time. Still heavier and more parts than an M2 though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchUSMC Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 930JM if I had to choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I would never have thought that. I always used Mossberg pumps back when I was hunting because they cost less. I guess I will have to look into a 930JM. What is two at a time loading? Is it kind of like the way a cowboy shootet loads a 97? One in the open chamber an one in the mag to close the bolt? Edited April 12, 2012 by usmc1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I would never have thought that. I always used Mossberg pumps back when I was hunting because they cost less. I guess I will have to look into a 930JM. What is two at a time loading? Is it kind of like the way a cowboy shootet loads a 97? One in the open chamber an one in the mag to close the bolt? Follow this link & watch the video. It is pretty impressive. http://www.carbonarms.us/TWinS-Shotgun-Loading-Systems/Carbon-Arms-TWinS-FSL-8-round.html MLM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I would never have thought that. I always used Mossberg pumps back when I was hunting because they cost less. I guess I will have to look into a 930JM. What is two at a time loading? Is it kind of like the way a cowboy shootet loads a 97? One in the open chamber an one in the mag to close the bolt? Follow this link & watch the video. It is pretty impressive. http://www.carbonarms.us/TWinS-Shotgun-Loading-Systems/Carbon-Arms-TWinS-FSL-8-round.html MLM pretty cool video. Edited April 12, 2012 by usmc1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddler Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 No less a three gun personage than Bruce Piatt advised me to get a Remington Tac-6 as an entry level shotgun. I couldn't find one so I bought an old 1100 and cloned my own. It has (crossed fingers) never jammed. I am not very good at three gun but I can't blame my dismal results on my equipment. My one complaint is that the loading port was not made for speed loading and can't really be modified effectively. When I start losing matches by seconds instead of minutes (hours, days) I will have a look at the 930JM or a tricked out Versamax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 My one complaint is that the loading port was not made for speed loading and can't really be modified effectively. When I start losing matches by seconds instead of minutes (hours, days) I will have a look at the 930JM or a tricked out Versamax. Yes it can I put a Daves easy loader on mine. Much faster to reload. I took the advice of the guys here and cut off the front 1/3 or so of it so my thumb did not get stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksmirk Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 A much better option than the 930 is the CZ712 much less work to get it to run. Just my two cents worth. Later, Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 930JM for sure over an 1100 or a CZ712. It sure is looking like the Versa-Max is going to be the hot ticket eventually... The fastest Quad Loads I have heard about are into 3 1/2" guns, which the VM is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooting for M Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Well, I currently run an 1100. I shot and have been toying with a buddies 930. I ordered a 930 JM yesterday. BTW found it on GB, there was another one up last night from the same guy for 595 shipped. They can be had for cheaper, but I am impatient. A versa max, FN or Benelli are all almost twice that or more. I don't shoot three gun enough to warrant that expense, and I'm saving for another S_I. If the 930 doesn't work, mossberg seems to do good at rectifying the situation. An 1100 will at least be in the ball park price wise but you say money doesn't matter if that's true. ETA I have an EZ loader on mine and have cut it as recommended and can load every other shotgun faster, 930, Benelli, FN..I was toying with the idea of installing the longer factor button for their tactical but I think the Remington is going to always give a bit with that button over a one piece lifter. The above is worth what you paid for it.... Edited April 12, 2012 by shooting for M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastshooter03 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 In Open and Limited I've had less problems with 930 compared to 11-87. I wouldn't mind trying a versa max though..... But until I win lottery it's gonna be 930. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 In Open and Limited I've had less problems with 930 compared to 11-87. I wouldn't mind trying a versa max though..... But until I win lottery it's gonna be 930. Nick I hear ya 1200.00 plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Springer Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 And worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 I don't know I took my Remington 1100 out today and ran 100 round through it. Ran smooth as glass. Federal value pack. The Daves easyloader worked great too. Hard to see letting go of that cash right now. still that Mossberg is a good looking gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 In Open and Limited I've had less problems with 930 compared to 11-87. I wouldn't mind trying a versa max though..... But until I win lottery it's gonna be 930. Nick I got my Versa Max 26" for $1174 after state tax at my local shop. But that's still some big coin, I suppose. I like it very much. It's months away, but if you will be at Rockcastle ProAm, let me formally invite you to try mine at the match. I had some serious work done on it by Jeff Cockrum. Runs great, but it ran nicely before just with the Devil's Own Pitchfork Lifter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Have a 1100 and do well with it but if i were buying it now i would go 930 JM. I got it when i was first starting 3 gun and was familiar with the platform and couldnt spring for a benelli and got it cheap so i went with it. It does need to be kept clean which I dont mind doing as it is like a 5 min job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastshooter03 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 In Open and Limited I've had less problems with 930 compared to 11-87. I wouldn't mind trying a versa max though..... But until I win lottery it's gonna be 930. Nick I got my Versa Max 26" for $1174 after state tax at my local shop. But that's still some big coin, I suppose. I like it very much. It's months away, but if you will be at Rockcastle ProAm, let me formally invite you to try mine at the match. I had some serious work done on it by Jeff Cockrum. Runs great, but it ran nicely before just with the Devil's Own Pitchfork Lifter! Thanks. I think I'll have a chance once Mark Roth(X-Rail) gets done playing with his test Versa Max. Hopefully it won't take to long. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I may X-rail this sucker this summer. I've got the +8 Nordic tube sitting in my home office ready to go any time. I'm trying to convince myself that Open is the way to go for me. I like "toys" and hate loading the shotgun. LOVE shooting the shotgun, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) accidental double post. Moderators, please remove if you are able. Edited April 17, 2012 by michael1778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Shot an 1100 in open for many years. 930 now-never has a hiccup. Lighter, cheaper, faster...did I mention it always runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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