Parsons Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I know these topics are discussed over and over but I have searched many forums and can not really find what I am looking for. I know there are many other brands out there that are good but I have read nothing but good reviews on these two companies. The reason I can not decide between the two is because I am going to be using this gun for more than just competitions. I have read that JP is outstanding for competition but doesn't hold up great to harsher environments while Noveske is more duty use friendly. I am going to be using this gun at competitions but also out on my property doing run and gun and other scenarios with my friends. If I go with JP the gun I am leaning towards is the JP-15 or even a lower cost one like the JP-15D if it is just as good but just not as fancy. With Noveske it will either be the Rogue Hunter or the VTAC in 16 inch. I am looking to spend at most $2000. If anyone has another model they think I should look at between these two companies please let me know what model and any additional info as to why it may be better for me. Which ever gun I order will be in 5.56. Thanks everyone, Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Both are good choices. I prefer the Noveske as mine have been utterly reliable. JP has its legion of fans as well and I am sure they will stop by here. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esskay Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 My JP has also been utterly reliable, in some moderately harsh conditions. I don't think you could go wrong either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMV Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have a Noveske that I use for competition and am leaning toward a JP for duty use (their we've got your back" is unmatched for those of use who might have to use the rifle in the line of duty). IMO, both companies make outstanding products and have great customer service...can't go wrong either way. My only concern would be finding one rifle which does everything you want for both competition and other use may be a little tough...going to have to compromise somewhere I would think. Which is the only excuse I needed to get one for each! Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrider18 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Both are excellent rifles/companies. Edited November 28, 2011 by Roadrider18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1760yds Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Both make excellent ARs. My JP competition gun is every bit as reliable as my other non-competition ARs and is so nice to shoot that I end up using it in non-comp applications. Both brands you are considering are popular enough to find at any match. Most shooters are happy to let you try them so shoot both and get the one you like shooting the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 JP would get my choice. They build great stuff and when you blue up one of their rifles due to negligence they build you a new one for free. At least that's what they did for me. Noveske stuff us super too so either way your good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 For duty I'd go with Noveske. For competition JP. Both would make fine rifles either way. I'm not real fond of the rail systems Noveske uses for competition, but they'd be fine for duty. Noveske started out oriented to the tactical market and their offerings still show this slant. JP has been involved with competition for years and years and I have yet to see a better competition rifle at any price. Some equal, but nothing to make me want to give up my current gun. Either way you'll get a good gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsons Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thanks for the replies everyone. Still a tough choice and I know I am going to have to compromise somewhere as CMV mentioned. Jesse you wore your gun out and they built you a new one for free? That sounds like a deal to me. Any other info is greatly appreciated. Parsons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thanks for the replies everyone. Still a tough choice and I know I am going to have to compromise somewhere as CMV mentioned. Jesse you wore your gun out and they built you a new one for free? That sounds like a deal to me. Any other info is greatly appreciated. Parsons I wish it was only wore out. I blew it up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsons Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 ^^ How did you manage to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionshooter Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Both are great companies with quality products, but If I were on the fence and couldn't decide I would choose JP because I see them sponsoring more matches. Just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprdave Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks for the replies everyone. Still a tough choice and I know I am going to have to compromise somewhere as CMV mentioned. Jesse you wore your gun out and they built you a new one for free? That sounds like a deal to me. Any other info is greatly appreciated. Parsons I wish it was only wore out. I blew it up!!! They actually replaced the rifle you totally nuked? wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruePunisher Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I have read that JP is outstanding for competition but doesn't hold up great to harsher environments Just wondering, where? Also, why does it have to be 5.56? JP Supermatch barrels are not 5.56 they are 223 Wylde and will shoot 223 Remington or 5.56 if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Wylde is a tighter therefore more accurate chamber than 5.56 as I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks for the replies everyone. Still a tough choice and I know I am going to have to compromise somewhere as CMV mentioned. Jesse you wore your gun out and they built you a new one for free? That sounds like a deal to me. Any other info is greatly appreciated. Parsons I wish it was only wore out. I blew it up!!! They actually replaced the rifle you totally nuked? wow Not the entire rifle just the upper. The lower was OK just needed a new mag catch spring. They not only replaced the $1800 upper they upgraded the handguard from the rifle length to the newer 15" model. I can't say enough good things about JP enterprises. Plus I got to meet one of the guys that works there during the process at a match or two and made a new drinking/shooting buddy. What a deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsons Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 TruePunisher, I don't remember which website it was on. It was on a google search and i clicked on a post to one of the gun forums and read it. It was mostly about their triggers messing up. Also, I was wanting 5.56 because thats what my other AR is and would be cheaper buying ammo if they were both the same and didn't have to buy two different calibers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I was wanting 5.56 because thats what my other AR is and would be cheaper buying ammo if they were both the same and didn't have to buy two different calibers. The Wylde chamber is designed to handle 5.56 or .223 equally well. So -- 5.56 ammo is perfectly fine in a 5.56 chamber or a Wylde chamber. -- .223 ammo is perfectly fine in a .223 chamber or a Wylde chamber There's no need to "buy two different calibers" with a Wylde. It's a no-downside choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter545 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I own one of each and they are both top notch rifles. I would be hard pressed to chosse one over the other. Either way you will not be dissappointed. Want to second the chamber statement; with a Wylde chamber you will be good with either .223 or 5.56. Good luck and good shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsons Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 I like the sound of the Wylde chamber. I will have to consider that when going to buy the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apriav Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I have several AR's, and the one I always come back to is the JP. It has 14 thousand rounds + through it and it still shoots MOA. It is the only rifle I have that will pattern the same with cheep 55's and 69gr SMKs (the SMKs are MOA), all the other rifles one groups high left. Get a JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krayons Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Rogue Hunter is a great gun. Did a build with that noveske barrel and 15" trx rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 both, very nice... Picked up our CTR yesterday, Fit and finish is impeccable, trigger excellent, waiting for the scope to come back so i can break her in..........my vote is for a JP, 15/ CTR/ SCR workmanship is tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme135 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Check the Noveske shooting team page on the Noveske web page. They have special models made up that the shooting team are using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I was on the fence a few weeks ago between a Larue predatAR and a JP. After much study and listening to folks here on the forum (and spending some time with my buddies JP CTR02), I chose a JP CTR02. When I finally made my decision, it was mainly due to the Larue having a mid length gas system (and not being totaly sure if I would like their handguard, which is proprietary)and JP having a rifle length system (and the same handguard that I have on my HM rifle). Also, while I believe the Larue is a fine rifle, I had factored in the cost of adding a JP LMOS Bolt carrier and buffer, changing the stock, and adding a comp to the Larue to get what I wanted in a rifle. The JP came like I wanted it, but I did pay more for it. I can't speak for Noveske, I have not owned one, but have heard good things about them from people that do. I would imagine either rifle would serve you well. Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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