Shooter115 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Super excited about attending BRM3G for my first time in a few weeks, but I have a few questions for some of the vets. This match adds a few elements that I've never had to work with in 3 gun competition. Slings. I have never been to a match that incorporated slung weapons. I have a VTAC sling for my rifle and am planning on getting a second for my shotgun. One of the great things about the sling is it's versatility for different carry positions without unslinging the weapon, ie: chest, low ready or back, muzzle up just by swinging the weapon around your body. Now from I've been able to tell by previous years video footage, there is a lot of vigorous movement at this match including crawling under and over obstacles. If one is carrying the rifle on your back for a climbing obstacle then has to transition to a firing position, by nature of how the sling functions the muzzle at some point is facing rearward. I realize that the weapon would be completely empty, but how does this work. Do you completely unsling as to keep a muzzle up or muzzle down status, is it just an unsaid rule you carry one way or the other throughout a COF, or is it understood that the weapon is completely empty and dare I say a non-issue.There's nothing in the rules that covers this. Buckshot. Also never been to a match that used buckshot. What do they use for targets and typically at what ranges? Shot size. I didn't see allowed shot size anywhere in the match rules either. I don't see any spinners in the stage descriptions so I'm assuming I won't need the 3" Turkey loads, but some high brass flight control 6's sure might not hurt if there is some longer range steel. I'm sure I will have more as the match gets closer. Thanks in advance to those that help a BRM3G newb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
releo 37 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Shoooter The VTAC will be fine for the shotgun. In the past how you sling the weapon is up to you because it will have an empty chamber/empty weapon. As far as shot size I have used 7.5/8 for the last 4 years. I was with Andy when he did the stages pattern your shotgun with buckshot at least 25 yds. Bret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFH Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 SIDE SHOOT!!! RCI Systems is going to run a Shotgun Speed Shoot to benefit the Task Force Dagger Foundation during the match. The side shoot will be located just down the hill from the hotel where we have had stages in the past, near the sight in area. There will be a payout of 50%, with the rest of the proceeds going to TFD. Let's see who has the fastest trigger speed and transitions!!! Only 5 more weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busyhawk Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Andy, How much is the side match and how many rounds will it take for the COF? Can we shoot the shotgun side match as many times as we want/can afford? I need to know how much extra ammo to bring:) Busyhawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1kelli Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 If the side match is like it was at Ozark...Ammo is provided so don't worry about that..and you can shoot as many times as you can afford (it was $10)! Proceeds go to a great cause and who doesn't want to play with an XRAIL!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn-rgr Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 If the side match is like it was at Ozark...Ammo is provided so don't worry about that..and you can shoot as many times as you can afford (it was $10)! Proceeds go to a great cause and who doesn't want to play with an XRAIL!? No doubt. I think my daughter spent about $100 there!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1kelli Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Alright it's a little different than Ozark! Semi autos this time (no short stroking issues..HA!)...you have a choice between the Compact or the Integrated XRAIL. $10 for comp (12 shots) $20 for integrated (24 shots) So there will be 2 different setups at the site. Ammo provided! FUN FOR ALL!!! ***come on Katie Francis Edited September 10, 2012 by k1kelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFH Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Hi Folks, One of the guys put together this document (CLICK HERE) which has the Stage Synopses and Diagrams. Thought I would post it in case anyone wants to print it for reference. The usual disclaimer still applies, that all is subject to change once we start putting the stages on the ground. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 All 3 guns on every stage and a round count of more than 500 - now that's a multi-gun match, Andy! One quick question - aside from stage 4, do all slug targets require just one hit anywhere? I'm tracking stage 4 ONLY requires 1 A or two hits anywhere. Thanks, Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 All 3 guns on every stage and a round count of more than 500 - now that's a multi-gun match, Andy! Thanks, Doug Doug, I think it's unfair to characterize BRM3G without also mentioning up to 40 minutes of actual on the clock shooting, if you don't time out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Yeah it's weird at this match when the RO says your run was 120 seconds and you are happy about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 All 3 guns on every stage and a round count of more than 500 - now that's a multi-gun match, Andy! Thanks, Doug Doug, I think it's unfair to characterize BRM3G without also mentioning up to 40 minutes of actual on the clock shooting, if you don't time out! Concur - forgot to even mention all that on-the-clock trigger-time, though we're always seeking to limit it. You know you're shooting a lot when your trigger finger starts to ache and seize up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFH Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Doug, You are correct; on all other stages, the slug targets only require one hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Doug, You are correct; on all other stages, the slug targets only require one hit. So the 8 slugs on stage 4 is only if you shoot one slug / target, right? Looks like there are 8 slug targets in the drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 All 3 guns on every stage and a round count of more than 500 - now that's a multi-gun match, Andy! One quick question - aside from stage 4, do all slug targets require just one hit anywhere? I'm tracking stage 4 ONLY requires 1 A or two hits anywhere. Thanks, Doug Its Three Gun, done the way that Hooked Me to to shoot 3GUN. Thanks Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=VILLAMOR=- Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 You know you're shooting a lot when your trigger finger starts to ache and seize up. I'm so excited. Maybe this will be the cure to a problem I've been having lately with my trigger finger twitching quite a lot. It started when I began looking at the stage designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFH Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 gose, You're right, the 8 rounds are if you put 1 A hit on each target. I thought this would be an interesting risk/reward situation. Thank you to whoever brought this idea out in another thread a while back!! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 How far away are we talking about? Beyond 30 yards my slug poi starts running away to the right. Two shots may be necessary for me. 100 yard shots are doable, but the sight picture gets interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFH Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 Slug distance depends on the stage. It's safe to to say that sometime during the match you will have some interesting sight pictures!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 gose, You're right, the 8 rounds are if you put 1 A hit on each target. I thought this would be an interesting risk/reward situation. Thank you to whoever brought this idea out in another thread a while back!! Andy Some of the local matches around here have been doing just that, definitely a more interesting situation with a shotgun than with a rifle, both in tac and in open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBets Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Is there any openings for new shooters left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Jacob, I would suggest emailing Andy asap at afh3g@yahoo.com. I don't know how long the waiting list is, but better to get on it sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Can I get a rule clarification? 6.3.2.6 No shotgun in Tactical class may be loaded with more than 9 rounds at any time, or hold over 8 rounds in the magazine tube. Does this mean no more than 8 at the start or no more than an 8 round tube? It's written a little different than some other equipment division rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Can I get a rule clarification? 6.3.2.6 No shotgun in Tactical class may be loaded with more than 9 rounds at any time, or hold over 8 rounds in the magazine tube. Does this mean no more than 8 at the start or no more than an 8 round tube? It's written a little different than some other equipment division rules. If you have a tube that will hold more than 8, plug it. If you start with a loaded chamber, no more than 9 total, if you start with an empty chamber, no more than 8 in the gun any place (no "ghost loading" Benellis) As for slightly different rules than other matches, aren't "outlaw" matches great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Stein, thanks for bringing this up. In this respect, BRM3G is quite different from most other outlaw matches. Shotgun magazine tubes must be plugged to 8 rounds maximum capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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