enutees Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I just broke my second trigger return spring on my Shadow. This one lasted three months. I shoot once a week about 150 rounds but I dry fire 5 times a week for 20-30 minutes. I had scheduled it to be replaced this month but I guess I have to move it up to every two months. Anyone else going through springs quickly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 i did about 11k before mine broke, no dry fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 oh, and it was comical trying to finish a stage by pulling the trigger, then pushing it forward, and repeating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 dang..you must be pulling my side of the average... never have broken a trigger return spring ever.. **knock on wood** I dryfire 4 or 5 nights a week, maybe 20 minutes all double action pulls. livefire is maybe twice a week 100 rounds or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorDanO Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've broken 2. Each in a separate gun after about a years use. The last one happened while I was taking a sight picture at LAMR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I win!!!!! I have broken 3 in my Shadow -- fewer than 10k rounds on my gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enutees Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 At least it was easier for me to replace the second time. Next time I'm sure it will be faster. I will get my GM trigger spring replacer card soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck1 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I must be another one of the lucky guys, I put over 6k and about a million and a half dry-fires on an SP-01 I used to have without an issue and I know the guy who owns it now and he's probably put a couple k on it by now too... My 75 Shadow has near 4k on it now and probably 12 million dry-fires on it, dry-fire almost every day, no issues so far... Just a guess, but I think the springs can get brittle if they get dry, my routine is that I always put a drop of grease/oil on top of the TRS whenever I field strip it. For the guys breaking them a lot, again, just a guess, but it could mean you may have a minuscule burr somewhere on the top of the trigger or frame someplace where the TRS is contacting them, making friction... I'm a long-time guitar player, and when I start breaking a lot of strings at the bridge it usually means there's a tiny burr I can't see with the naked eye on the metal saddles the strings lay over, a little extra-fine steel wool usually cures it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Hon Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've only broken one. Used gun, probably the 2nd month I had it. Replaced it with a Tanfo version from Henning (which are cheap). You guys oil/grease yours? I think it might have been Stuart (or maybe Henning) who I heard say something about keeping oil/grease on the spring to improve it's lifespan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enutees Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 I do oil and grease my springs. I clean my gun and oil it weekly Doesn't seem to help. If there is a burr it is tiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 i don't really clean my gun but i do lube it before every major or about once a month. i use an aerosol lube that i hose the action down with, a spritz on the trigger bar and trigger pin/spring and hammer spring and fpb, and spritz the barrel, and then grease on the rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerlrrp Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've never broken one either (10k?), however when recently getting my Shadow Ion Bonded I threw in a new one, just in case. It was from CZ custom which claims are better than typical CZ quality. Dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enutees Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've never broken one either (10k?), however when recently getting my Shadow Ion Bonded I threw in a new one, just in case. It was from CZ custom which claims are better than typical CZ quality. Dunno... The last one I broke was from CZ custom. I ordered some from CZ usa as well and I think they are identical unless there is some non visible difference. It actually lasted less than the factory spring. Any pics of your Ion Bonded shadow? My duo tone finish is worn to bare metal in quite a few places. Doesn't bother me but I guess I'll have to take care of it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 +1 on pics of the ion bonded shadow. mine is getting beat up. doesn't help it's been dropped a few times on concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 here are the pics. http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=40411.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexTalionis Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I broke one on my shadow. I had 6-7k rounds through it and a bunch of dryfire. The night before a match, I was practicing my trigger pull, and the TRS snapped. I had never detail stripped my shadow before. So a few youtube videos and 3+ hours later I had my TRS replaced and my gun functioning again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matzka Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Wow. This is kind of surprising. I've never had a broken trigger spring in any gun I've owned. Never even heard of one. Is this a weak spot that CZ's have? I have maybe 5 to 6k through my Shadow and probably 40k dry fires. No sign of a problem yet, but these posts have me concerned. Edit: After checking the CZ Custom web site, I see they have a new and improved trigger return spring available: http://czcustom.com/cz75trsnew.aspx Has anyone tried one of these yet? It says they are made from a better grade of spring steel. Edited June 10, 2011 by Jeff Matzka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 do you oil yours up? it seems like that might be key. i only oil before a big match, that might be my problem... but then i also don't pull the trigger much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I usually check the track in the frame for and burrs, etc, then I rebend the spring to pull tension off of it. then a dab of grease on it. I am running the factory spring, not the CZ Custom improved spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I have had 2 break in my SP-01. One around 1K rounds and the other at 5K rounds. They broke at the leg just before the wire enters the coil and not in contact with any other part of the gun! YMMV Later, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBray Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 39,195 rnds thru my SP01. Broke trigger springs at 18,036 and 14,417 rnds fired. Significantly more dry fire after 18,036 rnds breakage which may explain the shorter, apparent life. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeZer Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 About 25K rounds on my Shadow, still original factory TRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus_no1 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I think this thread is missing one very important issue. Tweaking this spring is the easiest way to improve trigger pull. When you do this you weaken the spring by putting abnormal tension on it. I think that's one big reason for i to brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I think this thread is missing one very important issue. Tweaking this spring is the easiest way to improve trigger pull. When you do this you weaken the spring by putting abnormal tension on it. I think that's one big reason for i to brake. Not necessarily. My first was "tweaked" by Angus. The second was not tweaked. It lasted about 4K more than the first but it still broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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