glock22.scout Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I have been batting arounf the question in my head on which to shoot? G22 in Limited class or the G17 in the production Class. I understand the Cost factor on ammo (I dont reload yet) but is there an advantage and/or disadvantage of either or? recoil is not a factor, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I'd go with the G17 in Production. That gun fits that class to a T. The G22 in Limited gives up to much over the long haul. What I mean by that is that at first it won't matter to you as you are new and learning. Over the long haul, you'll get better, guys with S_I guns and the like at your level are operating with a better platform. In my opinion you'd get to a skill level where your gear is going to help you or hurt you. The G17 in Production will never hold you back. It is perfect. Best course is to pick a gun and division and don't look back or second guess. Stay with it for a season or two. Good luck!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 S_I is short for STI/SVI type guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A38337 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) Why not consider G34 v. G35 instead of G17 v. G22? Edited April 14, 2011 by A38337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 +1 A38337, I assumed the op had a G17 & G34 currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Since Production is always minor, you can load your 40's for your 22 to shoot real soft and yet be able to shoot major Limited when you feel the urge...of course you will have to load them to get minor loads...unless you go to a third party ammo sales to get minor rounds. With that said, the 40 cal 22 will work fine, but if you have the 17, store box ammo will work for you. Decisions...decisions...you'll figure it out...use what you have, practice and shoot it, then decide where you want to go after you master the one(s) you have. Reloading will give you a lot more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Are these firearms you own, or are considering purchasing? That makes a big difference. We had this discussion last night at a USPSA match. .40 minor is softer than 9 minor and so the G22 can do both (Lim and Prod) better than a G17. After that, do you want to load every 8 to 10 rounds, or every 18 to 20 rounds? Limited, even Limited minor is easier to learn the ropes with as compared to production. The capacity limited divisions, Lim10, Production, Single Stack and Revolver, are slower, take more planning and make up shots hurt worse. In Production, add minor and you have to be MORE accurate. My son is only 9, but when he starts, Limited minor with a G22. Easiest way to get started! Recoil IS a factor BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock22.scout Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Yes I already have a G22 and G17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Yes I already have a G22 and G17. Buy a small amount of .40 minor and .40 major and try them out agsint the G17 and pick the one you like the best considering the reload every 8-10 rounds or every 18 to 20 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Gene Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Are these firearms you own, or are considering purchasing? That makes a big difference. We had this discussion last night at a USPSA match. .40 minor is softer than 9 minor and so the G22 can do both (Lim and Prod) better than a G17. After that, do you want to load every 8 to 10 rounds, or every 18 to 20 rounds? Limited, even Limited minor is easier to learn the ropes with as compared to production. The capacity limited divisions, Lim10, Production, Single Stack and Revolver, are slower, take more planning and make up shots hurt worse. In Production, add minor and you have to be MORE accurate. My son is only 9, but when he starts, Limited minor with a G22. Easiest way to get started! Recoil IS a factor BTW. Very good point! wg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I would suggest the G17 and run Production or even play in Limited shooting minor. The G17 can be competitive in Production with the addition of decent sights and a 25 cent trigger job, but a G22 in Limited would not be quite as competitive. The G22 can be run in Production with Minor, but you have to reload your own or buy loaded .40 minor, which is more than 9mm. Either way nothing wrong with starting in Production to help you learn to break down stages and get proficient with reloads (which will help your classifier runs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) Another consideration involves magazines. If you have ready and legal access to standard capacity magazines, there's no problem. If you live in a state where you are limited to 10 rounds, though, it is worth noting that tuning a G22 or G35 to run minor PF loads on light springs may be troublesome, as the .40 tenners vary as to how tight they are. Loaded to capacity, some ride the stripper rail so tightly that a light recoil spring may not have enough force to cycle cleanly, and you may see first shot misfeeds when shooting with ten in the mag and one chambered. The 9mm tenners do not seem to have this issue, nor the full capacity mags in either caliber, as they have more play. Edited April 15, 2011 by kevin c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliv2 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I would suggest the G17 and run Production or even play in Limited shooting minor. The G17 can be competitive in Production with the addition of decent sights and a 25 cent trigger job, but a G22 in Limited would not be quite as competitive. The G22 can be run in Production with Minor, but you have to reload your own or buy loaded .40 minor, which is more than 9mm. Either way nothing wrong with starting in Production to help you learn to break down stages and get proficient with reloads (which will help your classifier runs). Couldn't have said it any better myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) Another consideration involves magazines. If you have ready and legal access to standard capacity magazines, there's no problem. If you live in a state where you are limited to 10 rounds, though, it is worth noting that tuning a G22 or G35 to run minor PF loads on light springs may be troublesome, as the .40 tenners vary as to how tight they are. Loaded to capacity, some ride the stripper rail so tightly that a light recoil spring may not have enough force to cycle cleanly, and you may see first shot misfeeds when shooting with ten in the mag and one chambered. The 9mm tenners do not seem to have this issue, nor the full capacity mags in either caliber, as they have more play. Good point about the 10 round mags; I have a 10 round mag for my G22 that when loaded to capacity is real hard to do a speed reload. My hi-caps loaded to 10 rounds dont have that problem. Also have a 10 round mag for my STI that I cant even load into the gun with the slide forward. The 10 round law is garbage and doesnt do shit to stop crime. If the lawmakers ever see an A class or higher Production shooter do a speed reload with a Glock they would hopefully realize the fallacy of the law. Makes the politicians feel warm and fuzzy inside though. (rant off; Hawaii is a 10rnd state) Edited April 15, 2011 by SIG shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Man you are getting some good advice. What is you decision, how you leaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock22.scout Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Leaning more toward production with the G17. We will see how I do I'm shooting Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock22.scout Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 I have no mag restrictions. I live in the great state of Vermont where you can have anything you want except for a suppressor!! I only have hi cap mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaTact Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Wow-- I've bookmarked this thread. I've only been doing IDPA but definitely want to branch into USPSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock22.scout Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 So after shooting a clinic today I have decided to go production with G17 right now. I have my first match tomorrow. Also after talking to few of the shooters I might shoot the G22 in production sometimes also! Thanks for all the advice. Will update tomorrow!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scott Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Nice choice. I'm just a new guy myself, but I think I would have went the same way. Was it cold enough for you today? I was freezing out there. See you tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock22.scout Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 It was cold! But even a cold day shooting is a good day! What are you shooting Patrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scott Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Glock 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock22.scout Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Great day shooting yesterday!!! G17 was a good choice. Now to practice practice practice!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Less Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 You could always just shoot the G22 in USPSA Production too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock22.scout Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 I might also. Can u shoot a different gun from match to match in the same class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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