kgwld1 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Well, I have a Hornaday lnl with all the fix-ins, 45, 40, 9 mm ,380, 223. I'm really thinking of selling and going to a Dillon either a 650 or the 1050. Any body own the lnl or the the other 2 Dillon's. What are the pros and cons between the Dillon's to the lnl? I'm just getting tired of all the constant small adjustments. I know its rather a broad question but I've read a lot and just wondered what i can do. Any help would be outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmerritt Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 650 is awsome, and so is there service dept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) LNL AP is awesome and so is their customer service. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115018&st=25&p=1379843&hl=lnl%20vs%20dillon&fromsearch=1entry1379843 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117787&st=0&p=1344043&hl=lnl%20vs%20dillon&fromsearch=1entry1344043 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117671&st=25&p=1353531&hl=lnl%20vs%20dillon&fromsearch=1entry1353531 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=98381&st=50&p=1336088&hl=lnl%20vs%20dillon&fromsearch=1entry1336088 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=120681&st=0&p=1370657&hl=lnl%20vs%20dillon&fromsearch=1entry1370657 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36930&st=0&p=441919&hl=lnl%20vs%20dillon&fromsearch=1entry441919 ...and on and on... Edited February 15, 2011 by Jman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The search feature is awesome and so is the customer service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I own a 1050. I do not reject buying it in the least. I wish I had the money to buy the other one at the same time. Once the 1050 is set, I crank out thousands of rounds. Setting up for a new caliber requires major adjustments and fine tuning but again once it is set it runs for thousands of rounds without any worries. Friends have the 650 and love it. Easier perhaps to do caliber changes, but seems more complicated to me. Determine the volume of reloading you want to do and how many caliber changes you need could help you decide between a 1050 and 650. I reload 9, 38SC, 45, 40, and 223. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDirkona Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I got myself a brand new LNL AP with all the fixings, case feeder and 4 caliber changes for Christmas. Less than one (long, frustrating) month later, the LNL was sent back to the factory and a Dillon 650 is in its place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwld1 Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 Thanks, guys I've used the search read a ton, but lots info and i appreciate all the replies. Just thinking of taking the plunged to the blue side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Thanks, guys I've used the search read a ton, but lots info and i appreciate all the replies. Just thinking of taking the plunged to the blue side. You won't be sorry you did! Buy a 650. Lifetime no BS warranty and caliber changes are much less expensive. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken8521 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Thanks, guys I've used the search read a ton, but lots info and i appreciate all the replies. Just thinking of taking the plunged to the blue side. You won't be sorry you did! Buy a 650. Lifetime no BS warranty and caliber changes are much less expensive. Pat Much less expensive than what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwld1 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Maybe then the 1050? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Drink the Ford Blue kool-aid and never worry about it again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punxsutawn Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I have an RL1050 I bought used and after a little cleaning, adjusting, etc., I cannot imagine how I ever lived without it. It did have a bit of learning curve for me, however, reading this forum has helped significantly! I sure wished I bought one years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Go blue! I have 3 1050's and bullet feeders just feed them primers and brass... I have had them all 650 and 550 grade A products! Customer service great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 CHEVY !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Kelly Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Drink the Ford Blue kool-aid and never worry about it again.... So Dillon is Ford Blue. Is Hornady Ferrari Red? I'm confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwld1 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 (edited) Thanks looking around now. I might just go 650 with all my cal changes my main ones are .45,.40,9mm. I shot around 35,000 both the last two years mostly 9mm. Edited February 16, 2011 by kgwld1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punxsutawn Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The 650 is a great choice, however, I don't shoot near as many rounds as you do, and I still would have the 1050 if I had to make a choice. Tool heads are a more expensive, but I believe they are money well spent. It's merely a one time expense as you would never have to buy one again. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohuskers Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The 1050 is great for no other reason then priming on the downstroke. It's just a solid machine and can crank out the ammo. The 650 is also wonderful, a little easier to change calibers and much cheaper in that regard. I own 1 of each and they're both great machines. If you've got the money then go with the 1050, but the 650 doesn't lag far behind it, and for the price you can get 2 650s for the cost of 1 1050 at the going rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwld1 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 I've been comparing cost of setups between the 650 and the 1050. Now I'm looking at speed between the 2. I've read a lot about 650 and the primer issues, and to be honest this is the #1 problem with the hornaday lnl. I have replaced on my press the primer cam wire and plastic holder on my press at least 10 times! And now again I'm having the same problems. I have replaced these parts so many times I just getting feed up. It runs for maybe a few thousand and bang problem city. It just becomes frustrating with all the stops it turns into reloading for 3 hours and re engineering for 2 hours. I would just like to get on a roll crank them out and be done. Sorry to vent but my wife doesn't care about my problems. LOL Then comes the other problem the money that is tied up in the hornaday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A63111 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 A shooting buddy has a LNL. Seems to always be tinkering trying to get it to run. Took a look at my 550 and now he wishes he had gone Blue. Dillon's have their quirks but once you work them out they are solid and reliable turning out quality ammo in minimal time. Either press could serve you well. Ever thougt about 2 650s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwld1 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Well might just go one 650 and see if i like it then by the second. I am dream building as of now but the reloading season is approaching so won't drag my feet long. I really do appreciate all the help and am reading and considering all the suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken8521 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Drink the Ford Blue kool-aid and never worry about it again.... So Dillon is Ford Blue. Is Hornady Ferrari Red? I'm confused... Call Dillon... If you try to match the blue (either to repaint your press, or paint objects to match it) they will tell you the color is "Ford Blue" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notar Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Your in a pickle, most of your calibers are small primer, so 1050 for them. 45 is large, I love shooting 45's so a 650 as a Minimum,lol Lots of calibers, 650's make a lot of sense, down the road you can still add a 1050 for your high round count loading. Once fired Military brass is cheap, and the swage function is really nice on the 1050. I've had 550's 650's and 1050's, I've sold off the 650's, but they still were OK machines. I've seen a video of a 550 with case feeder and Mr. Bulletfeeder(worth EVERY Penny, tks Rick +10) that was putting out rounds like a 650 with a priming system I like more than the 650's. SO maybe a 550 to start, pimp it out(223 won't work wit the case feeder, but that's what 1050's are for) with case feeder and bulletfeeder(over $500, but worth it). It wouldn't hurt to keep the 550 for life, and upgrade to a 2nd press somewhere down the line. a Single 1050 with lots of conversions really is not the answer, it's big $$ for toolheads($170 IIRC), thats the big ticket item for a caliber change over, I never could see myself changing dies in and out off a toolhead, I like to set them , and keep them on for consistency sake. Once you prime cases with a 1050, it's hard to move back to a 550 of 650, the 1050 is a Cadillac in the priming system, from depth control, positive seating, and excellent alignment. One member said maybe 2 650's, that's better than 1 650, but the 550 and 1050 your getting 2 of Dillons Best machines, it's a rocking bench. Go Blue and be happy. Edited February 17, 2011 by Notar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwld1 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Your in a pickle, most of your calibers are small primer, so 1050 for them. 45 is large, I love shooting 45's so a 650 as a Minimum,lol Lots of calibers, 650's make a lot of sense, down the road you can still add a 1050 for your high round count loading. Once fired Military brass is cheap, and the swage function is really nice on the 1050. I've had 550's 650's and 1050's, I've sold off the 650's, but they still were OK machines. I've seen a video of a 550 with case feeder and Mr. Bulletfeeder(worth EVERY Penny, tks Rick +10) that was putting out rounds like a 650 with a priming system I like more than the 650's. SO maybe a 550 to start, pimp it out(223 won't work wit the case feeder, but that's what 1050's are for) with case feeder and bulletfeeder(over $500, but worth it). It wouldn't hurt to keep the 550 for life, and upgrade to a 2nd press somewhere down the line. a Single 1050 with lots of conversions really is not the answer, it's big $$ for toolheads($170 IIRC), thats the big ticket item for a caliber change over, I never could see myself changing dies in and out off a toolhead, I like to set them , and keep them on for consistency sake. Once you prime cases with a 1050, it's hard to move back to a 550 of 650, the 1050 is a Cadillac in the priming system, from depth control, positive seating, and excellent alignment. One member said maybe 2 650's, that's better than 1 650, but the 550 and 1050 your getting 2 of Dillons Best machines, it's a rocking bench. Go Blue and be happy. Wow, I really appreciate the time for the reply! Lots of decisions for me to make. I just banged out over 500 round on mine but had a few jams but pretty smooth. But might just go with one 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98sr20ve Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Well, I have a Hornaday lnl with all the fix-ins, 45, 40, 9 mm ,380, 223. I'm really thinking of selling and going to a Dillon either a 650 or the 1050. Any body own the lnl or the the other 2 Dillon's. What are the pros and cons between the Dillon's to the lnl? I'm just getting tired of all the constant small adjustments. I know its rather a broad question but I've read a lot and just wondered what i can do. Any help would be outstanding. So what are the problems? I sold a 550 to get the LnL with a casefeeder. I had some issues but tey are resolved pretty easily. The one area that the LnL beats the 650 is with the case slider setup. It captures the base of the case so it can't tip, it also is easier to adjust. BUT, once you get the LnL adjusted you actually never adjust it again. I also like how the LnL has the casefeeder slider on the left not the right so if you do have a issue it is super easy to fix. To me that is the only place the LnL needs a little extra TLC then the Dillon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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