Mike P

I don't think it will die. After all, some version of this same discussion rolls around at least a couple of times a year. Not only that, but it seems that (at least locally) about a quarter of the people shooting 3 gun have the kit to shoot heavy/He man. What may end up happening is for there to be a few more matches that are HM specific. Isn't the one out west fairly well attended? Nothing saying it couldn't happen other places, eh?

I was having what I thought were extraction problems with mine. Though it wound up being the ejector. The new onwewas a little different. The thing has been running great after changing it.

Any idea how many shooters are going to be there?

From the map it looks like they got it too, maybe worse. Watch your footing, it'll be slicker'n snot on a doorknob in places.

This looks like fun. It has a very reasonable match fee and better yet, Paladin scoring. I'm happy to see it is still hanging around. I'd for sure shoot it if it was closer. Maybe next time. Good luck with the match.

It is probably to early to be thinking about, but I sure hope they bring back the flying bird stage in one form or another.

Mammoth Sniper Challenge at Rockcastle in about 3 weeks.

Go ahead and invent another wheel. The 3gn classification works for 3gn, the uspsa classification works for uspsa, and so forth. There is a substantial number of shooters that participate in major multi-gun events that choose to not be involved in either. If a classification is neccessary it seems that one maintained on universal and overall match results would make more sense. Even if the match was not affiliated with any other organization. Of course if 3gn or uspsa were to track results from major matches that are not affiliated I suppose using one of their systems could work.

Are you going to use those funky GGN targets?

The A-5 is a great SG. I wouldn't consider it for 3-gun though. If one was to screw up and let the bolt close on their thumb it'd be like closing a safe door on it. Much worse than a Benelli. Ask me how I know, LOL You can sometimes find shorter barrels on gunbroker for not much more than it would cost to cut and choke the original. Still though, they are better bird guns.

3GN should use whatever target they like, FNH too, for that matter any match director. I must say though that I'm with Pat the popo on this one. I think they suck. My hope is that they don't start showing up in any regular matches I shoot.

I like the Larue bi-pod, which I believe is a Harris with a Larue QD mount. Never had any problems with mine.

If you want to go to the prize table in order of finish, then shoot pro next year. One more stage, one more C note, and order of finish to the PT.

Can something be "tactical" and not be suitable for use in the "real world" or "real world" approved and yet untactical?

Note to Zac, Rockcastle, or anyone who is sponsoring/creating a side match. Set up a 3 position flurry type event where the positions and traps approximate this stages bird with the 2 second cadence and I think you'll sell tickets. Maybe.

Sounds like you'd need to hit the stationary birds fast, move fast, load fast, and shoot the clay birds about every two seconds or so. This stage might be (nearly) as much fun to watch as to shoot.

One of the folding big-butt lawn chairs would most likely be more useful than one of those old timer gear carts. It'd give someone a relatively tickless place to sit when they weren't shooting or resetting the stages.

No it should not be major. It is an intermediate cartridge (assault rifle) not a full power cartridge that major was built around (.308) Pat Hold on for just a minute. 7.62x39 is actually .310 or .311, if memory serves (I don't have an AK and don't load this cartridge), so the bullet diameter is larger and the length is shorter (resulting in a lighter bullet). The real issue is driving the bullet fast enough to make major (320 pf). There are at least a couple of loads that do this (barely). .30 Gremlin was designed specifically by the AMU for Dan Horner to make major for the USPSA nationals a few years ago. He switched to 300BLK in 2011 (if memory serves) to use the mainline AR parts available (especially in the Army's supply stream). Because he's shooting Tactical, he switched to a 5.56 this year, due to the move away from major/minor scoring. I think the statement is really tied to whether 7.62x39 should be considered for HEAVY METAL or Heavy Tactical or Heavy Limited. In this case, I agree with Alaska--the divisions are designed around using a true .30 caliber rifle. 7.62x39 doesn't meet this spec. Neither does 300BLK, even tho it uses the same bullet diameter and weights as .308. Thresd drift.... IMO major PF for rifle should be at LEAST 360, easy enough to make even out of short RIFLE.

The ticks don't seem to care what you wear. One thing you might try is to get there a day early and drink to excess the night before going onto the range. That way if you get bit by one it may pass out and fall off....and have a worse headache than you.

Has anyone ever seen or even heard of a headache free major match? As a sometimes shooter I prefer to see the envelope pushed with regard to stage design and endure the inconveniences that go with it. Best of luck,

I find that most of the time misses on flying clays are from either stopping the gun or raising my head off the stock. Decide what type lead you want to use and concentrate on not stopping the gun and keep your head down. HTH

This match was a lot of fun. ROs were great, range was fantastic for this type of a match. There was lots of steel, reasonable challenges and plenty of slug shooting. This one will be a priority when I schedule for next year if they have it.

Ye Gads! After reading 3 pages of arguements for/against rule changes, I'm pretty sure I could have more easily read a set of rules for any match I might be interested in attending. Not broken IMO.

This match seems to get better with every update.

It looks like the fall is already full of matches. Maybe they'll have it there in late July/early August as a WARM up for the ProAm.