D. Manley

For a combat style handgun, Glocks are amazingly accurate. The biggest limiting factor is the shooter...shooting the Glock is not conducive to tight groups for most shooters and is definitely an acquired skill. Good sights are a must and a good trigger is a tremendous help. My six Glocks all group very well with good loads and although I believe it is simply the advantage of a longer sight radius, I do best with the G-34 and G-35. Either of these is capable of 10-shots in a inch and a half @ 25 yards benched on a good day. As a side note, I can't speak for others but it seems to me just "learning" to shoot benched is an acquired skill all in itself. I know if I do it on a regular basis, the groups stay consistent but after a little layoff, the "range rust" becomes "range corrosion" and I know it ain't the guns.

I think that's going to be my solution to get through the Wof SPP problem, too. I've got several unused Glock OEM FP springs and have set up another lightened FP to experiment with. I'm gonna' try to clip coils until I find a spot where I can still get reliable ignition with them and still have a decent trigger. I "think" minus 7-coils pretty well mimics the Wolf 4LB RPFPS so hopefully, clipping 4 or 5 coils will work OK. It's not gonna take much...just a little more whap should do it.

Ding, ding...I think you may have answered my problem. I just got my first 5,000 batch of Wolf SPP in a couple of weeks ago and found the same thing. I didn't however, realize they had been changed. I had 5 out of the 1st 50-rounds fail to light in my G-34. A couple of these lit with a 2nd hit, the others did not. I did all the usual checks (yes, they were fully seated) and since I do run a RPFPS with lightened steel FP, I suspected either the FP spring has weakened, hard primers or both. I did finish the day with loads using both Winchester and Federal with no problems whatsoever so I know for sure the Wolf's are at minimum, harder to ignite than either of them. The FP spring did have a high round count so I switched it out for a fresh one and have a new batch of Wolf primed ready for next trip. If I still have problems I'll likely be forced to trade off the Wolfs since I run the same setup on all my range guns. I have never had a Federal, Winchester or even CCI fail to light that was not my fault and I can count them on one hand. I think the new Wolf's are just pretty tough to light.

I have no problems whatsoever running F/P or JHP @ 1.135 in a G-35. That said, I settled on 1.130 for most bullets since I don't run "hot" and the groups are good...seems to me 1.130 is the "sweet spot".

I just ran my first loads using Wolf SPP through my G-34 with a RPFPS and lightened steel FP...5 out of 1st 50 failed to light. I switched to other loads with Winchester and Federal and finished the day without issue. I should mention that this gun has never failed to light a load using Winchester, Federal or CCI...handload or factory load. The primers in question were most definitely seated well and "appeared" to have been hit well enough to light. Although others reported having to use a little more force seating the Wolfs, I thought they actually primed easily with a feel akin to Federals...smooth slide in and solid bottoming out. My FP spring does have a high round count though and I suspect it may have weakened. I have a new one installed to check next trip and plan to run a significant number of Wolf-primed rounds and try to nail it down.

Good information, all. I thought I'd heard of the "5,000" rule before but didn't remember for sure. This one's got well more than that on it. I do know the FP channel is not clogged, I completely strip and clean (and, I DO mean clean) fairly regularly. I had not thought of the channel liner but I do always do the FP Safety Plunger safety test and it both works and allows the FP to move freely both ways when depressed. I do notice a very slight amount of gauling on the FP where it would contact the FP Safety. I think this is relatively insignificant though since there are no chips or other indications on the actual FP Safety itself. This is my 1st go-round with the Wolfs, first choice option is always Federal (B/O forever) and second, Winchester. I strongly suspect the Wolf may just be a little "harder" than I anticipated. If the new 4 LB. Wolff spring don't light 'em, I'll either run a stock spring or trade the Wolfs off. If I do have a problem with a new spring, these Wolf's will be the last I snag for the range guns although, I'm sure they would be fine in a stock setup. No problem with seating. Primer pockets were fully prepped on this run and all were seated below flush, bottomed out and individually checked. The new Wolf SPP are nickle plated and actually seat very smoothly...have a similar feel to Federal when seating on the Dillon. I think this is gonna' come down to either an older RPFP spring that has "taken a set" or weakened, very hard to ignite primers or a combination of both. I really doubt the primers will turn out to be really "bad" although, the FP indentation would make you believe it should have lit.

I run Wolff RPFP springs combined with lightened steel FP's in all my non-defensive Glocks. Never had a problem lighting a primer...until, today. Tried a batch of Wolf primers for the 1st time and had 5 out of the 1st 50 9MM fail to ignite while running the G-34. The FP stike indention was light but "seemed" good enough. This particular setup has seen several thousand rounds and I've popped in a new spring to try next trip but I'm wondering, what kind of mileage others are getting from them and is failure in any way predictable by round count? Of course, I don't know for sure that the spring has weakened (could be just a bad batch of primers) but in the past I've not had any issue with Winchester or Federal primers nor, any factory ammo including CCI, generally considered among the hardest to ignite. Even today, switched to loads with Winchester primers and ran another 150 or so without a hitch.

Will be interested to see it; if it becomes your "pet" load. No one has any pet 115s! Not that surprising I guess, but I'm a little surprised at that. Pet loads for 115? I guess it depends on your goal but for optimum groups in my guns these are tops. Charge variance depending on the specific bullet: 4.8 / 5.0 grains N-330 5.8 / 6.1 grains 3-N-37 5.3 /5.5 grains WSF 5.3 / 5.9 grains Silhouette 6.0 / 6.4 graisn Power Pistol

Everyone has their preferences but I like the JHP better. The cost difference is minimal and for whatever reason, I seem to get better groups with them compared to RN profiles. No problem loading/seating the JHP bullets and for load data, you can pretty well extrapolate from that of other bullets of similar weight & design.

I just would'nt use it, bad ju-ju in .40 caliber (or any other, IMO)...to easy to get good brass and not worth the risks.

I found polishing reduces the sticking (and sometimes, eliminates it altogether) but occasionally, it seems to return. I've started using one of the dry, spray-on lubes (wax or teflon types) after buffing the funnel. Makes it seem to go a lot longer between "stickiness" issues. These lubes are available under many brands, just spray on and it dries completely in just a minute leaving a thin, invisible & non-oily coating on the funnel. Does not accumulate and no risk of contamination.

I run the 230 MG @ 1.254 over 3.9 grains Clays.

I've gotta' say, they've earned my loyalty as a customer, it's the least I can offer in return. I don't think I could live with myself otherwise after all they've done for me.

Probably accurate. I picked up 5K of Wolf SPP today from Wideners.

As others suggested, might try a different powder or vary the load of W-231 a bit. It seems to me the MG bullets like a little more pressure to really tighten up the groups. FWIW, I often shoot the MG 115 JHP (essentially same bullet minus the cavity) and it does well at 1.10 in my guns.

I'd stop and quickly. It's been done (repeatedly) by others and the aluminum will split quickly. Brass is plentiful and not worth the risk especially, in .40.

All the VV pistol powders seem in perpetually short supply but N-330 is by far the hardest to find. If you shoot it and like it, my advice is to always "buy ahead" furthur than you normally would.

Very close to my current infatuation...3.8 grains N-330 @ 1.125 under the Zeros.

For sheer tight groups, N-330 get my vote in 9MM. That said, all the VV powders from N-320 (for some, even N-310) to 3-N-37 shoot very well in my guns. If I had to pick only one for all-around 9MM use, it would be 330.

Yep and all the more reason to use the "averaging" method as per Brian, above. I fine tune in 10-drop averages and you can bet if you're looking for 4.0 grains and your 10 drops = 40.0 grains that your actual, individual charges will be as close as the measure is capable of.

American Select is actually quite good in some calibers/loads. It is not among the best metering powders but is still perfectly adequate in the Dillon PM. I've found that it's "fluffy" nature requires a little bit longer to fully settle in the measure but once it does, meters fine.

I'd say you're seeing a problem with the chrono.

How do you wipe them out? Mineral spirits on a q-tip? Bore brush? LOL I have a SDB with 2000 through it. Now idea how many before me??? I'm the second or third owner! I just used a paper towel wrapped around a small dowel rod, they come clean very easily. Any general purpose gun solvent should be fine, I just use Kroil most of the time. Whatever you use, wipe it dry before use or storage. FWIW, I think the reason I got a little embedded material in the sizing die was, I run my range brass through U-Dies on a turret before use. It's likely that since the cases are already sized (actually, undersized) they don't tend to fit tight enough in the Dillon sizer when loading to "self-clean" the die walls as they run through. I should probably just pull the sizing die altogether but I occasionally use it so it's still there.

I assume you mean 125 grain Zeros. As of last week, Dave Zimmerman of TARGET BARN had 1,000 left after I got mine. Might give him a call...quick.

Just curious if anyone has any feedback on THIS yet.