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Im suspicious at this point but I don’t think the SF owner base is that big to drive this to market faster....but I’m hopeful! I do want a trigger safety but would consider this for comp guns only (like the SF). I imagine there’s some liability for Walther US to provide a trigger with no safety but there are other safeties on the SF.

I had a chance to shoot the X-five Legion today (about 100 rounds with various shooting goal) and I’m a PPQ Q5 SF owner....and I think the X5 Legion is a great value. My splits were about the same and I think I’m a bit more accurate with the SF but I attribute that to 1500 rounds through the SF. As mentioned above, I do agree that the SF is higher quality and I prefer the feel in my hand. The SF has a better trigger but the X5 Legion trigger is the best P320 based version I’ve tested (and I’ve shot my regular X5 with the gray guns upgrades and I didn’t find it better). The X5 is lighter but not as crisp as the SF and the reset is worse. I’m happy to crap on Sig (after being a beta tester for the first 226 Legions and having 2 bad P365s)....BUT I think they have a USPSA production winner on their hands assuming it makes the list. But it’s still limited for carry optics to the Sig red dots (without a plate to convert to better red dots). As far as overhyped - all new competition pistols are hyped at launch but there aren’t many options at this weight and price that are as competent. So I get the hype but don’t let that keep you from checking it out if you can. Not it sure if I’m keeping my SF or not at this point...which says a lot.

Really, anything you can share

Call Modern Sportsman in Burnville MN (since you're in MN as well). My lightly used TSO is there with some extras

I think we all had expected the apex trigger to fit our SFs [sad trombone]. Not sure why it doesn’t fit but it’s a new fun to the market so, if it sells well, I’m certain we will see some upgrades available. I see the Q5SF as a hot carry optics option for a lot of people without going too expensive (relatively speaking). At least that what I’m hoping for!

I called Walther and they had the Veil in stock so it’ll make it here by Friday. I’ll give it a shot and see what changes I want for a RHT holster. Thanks!

Me too - I want one I’m not totally sure why the regular PPQ apex trigger won’t work in the SF....but I haven’t bought one to try!

How would an accu shadow 2 compare?

Having had an STI marauder and edge, a TSO, and a number of PPQs...I sold them all and picked up a PPQ Q5 Steel Frame for my USPSA, IDPA, and general target shooting pistol. So I’m a bit biased at the moment. All are great guns and it comes down to price, how finicky they are, and your preference for trigger and safeties. Youll need to to decide what division you want to shoot since they will impact this as well (9mm vs .40). While all of them are more accurate than I am, I would have to say: - TSO: less finicky than the 2011s (in my experience), the weight is in the right spots to get you back on target, good aftermarket, great adjustable trigger out of the box, but a weak trigger reset and I couldn’t get the right thumb rest angle for my hands - 2011s: great trigger, largest aftermarket support, gets back on target fast, gets picky with mags and needs a bit more maintenance, more expensive, need big hands to reach controls easily, some issues with off hand usage for me and the grip safety - PPQ polymer: good trigger (but get an apex), great price, slowest back on target with most flip, below average aftermarket support, not as special feeling - PPQ Steel Frame: price less than the TSO or 2011, weight makes it fast to get back on target, still need big-ish hands for it, hardly any aftermarket available, some initial teething issues from Walther, was fastest from the holster to first shots for me. You cant go wrong but try them all!

Thanks! Does the dara come with a drop offset option? Will try - I think I may end up missing this months shoot...

I recommend a lens pen - it’s for optics and works great on my red dots. No extra cleaners or solvents!

I just got my Q5SF and want to shoot my local USPSA march next Sunday....but don’t have a holster yet. The clock is ticking on a short week... Do you know who has anything in stock that can ship tomorrow? I think the only options are: - Veil Solutions/Walther site - unclear if in stock and Walther is very slow to ship - Comp Tac - 9 day mfg lead time - Red Hill - 30 day mfg lead time - Dara - least favorite option but maybe 3 days lead time Doesnt look like there’s web shops have any Q5SF stuff in stock (no surprise there). Thanks for the advice or tips!

I agree about the X-Five. I had one stock and with a variety of ways to improve the trigger...none of which I thought helped After a few tries with a Shadow 2 I settled on the PPQ Q5 SF and think it’s great...until something cooler comes out!

Yes - I called last week and they said they may consider doing something in the future if there is demand. So, now I’m just hoping for the Walther expert trigger to get US approval for import...

Also, I have extra lighter trigger springs that I will ship/mail to anyone who wants one for a couple bucks plus shipping. I got got the amazon ones from the lanzer recommendation: https://www.google.com/amp/s/lanzerbot.wordpress.com/2016/02/13/ppq-trigger-mod-to-3-5-pound/amp/ It did seem the SF has a stronger trigger spring than my other PPQs...but it might have just been new.

Not sure that spring I posted is any lighter...despite walther saying it is (and, as mentioned, they don’t seem to be concerting newtons to pounds very well). I have the lighter spring from bwikel (thanks!) on its way to compare.

I just tried my wolff glock recoil springs and they are too small. Can you share a link to what you purchased?

Hi all - Just picked up a SF and saw the numerous questions/comments about the lighter recoil spring. I was busy harassing machinist friends to drill a hole for the slide lock nipple when I came across this: https://shop.waltherarms.com/q5-sf-55-threaded-barrel-12x28 I didn't want the threaded barrel (some might) but a reduced recoil assembly for the SF piqued my interest. So, I called Walther today to see if they could tell me anything about it. I wanted to know: 1) If the recoil assembly is available by it self >>> it IS 2) What the reduced recoil spring weight is >>> They said it was 48 newtons...and we can see earlier in this thread that they claim the factory one is 50 newtons. The conversion is off (as also noted) but it should be lighter which should help. 3) How much it is >>> $24.99 plus shipping. I figured it was worth trying. So, FYI - you may want to try this less expensive option instead of machining an existing guide rod and trying springs.