2011BLDR

Everglades 115gr JHP 1.117" 6.6 gr 3N37

I have used my lasers about 15 times in the last year: several times on hard left leans once on a 4 target laydown array ( sucked the stock up over the top of my shoulder) a traditional sight picture would have been problematic with the bore offset and hardcover + No- Shoot placement with this array) several times on tight to the wall through a window targets I had one where I was able to stay back out of a window and shoot the first target from the stock on belt start with the laser and eliminate a position entry and exit several times on 3 yard or closer tight head shots ( only upper A and above exposed) as a secondary POI reference through my primary sight a window driveby, never stopped for a sight picture just picked up the green on target and let 2 go

I have had better luck with using the ecotec or UH-1 holographic sights I can slide the retical off in to the edge or corner of the window easier than using a 45 deg offset.. but I do have a CMR206 @12 O'clock also K

Yea you can get 124's to be close to the same drop with the correct velocity... I needed the 124's to be 1290fps to match up with the 5.56mm BDC in my optic.. end of the day the 115gr load is flatter in my MPX's with the MBX comp's so t use the 115's only now. You need to shoot @ distance you can't trust a BZO @ 17-25 YD to be close to hitting where it is supposed to @ 100 +... lots of windage adjustment to bring the BZO in @ 100YD in my experience with no noticeable change on the 17-25 YD targets afterwords.

My 115gr JHP @ 1405fps load is -28.4 inch drop @ 200YD... Farthest target last year at this match was 185-187 YD full size silhouette for a -19.6 inch drop that coincided with my 5.56 BDC reticle 600YD aiming point..

115gr Everglades JHP 6.5gr 3N37 = 1405 FPS / 161PF .. works my MBX comps better than the factory Speer & Federal 115gr loads that hit the same velocity...

Being in NZ the FIRST THING you need is a a gunsmith/ armorer in NZ that can keep an open gun running..I have fixed issues in 2011/1911 built by just about every one( CK, STI, SVI,LIMCAT, ATLAS, Gans, Cammerans, FGW, Dawson, Brazos, ect..) just to save friends matches or loung spells without their guns .. I only do full builds for myself and the ocasional vary good friend that is local to me.. bottom line 2011's are like race cars stuff wears out and brakes or goes out of tune.. sending things back to the US from NZ is crazy loung and probably mega $$$

Did some #'s crunching and found close to the same percentage swing the other way in other classifiers: Classifer Old pcc New PCC % Change 03-07 68.8272 83.2414 14.142 13-07 71.8827 90.2945 18.4118 99-61 68.7017 79.0678 10.3661 13-05 76.8464 87.1282 10.28 I didn't go all the way back but looked at a few, so at the end of it I don't see that the new HHF's would have any change on my current classification. I think I would have made Master sooner than I did with the open based HHF's.

The reality is I was at 93.1275% on 6/27/18 post HHF adjustment 6/28/18 it is 78.8763% so from top of M to bottom of A but we wont run a recalculation ???.... shooting the exact same Hit factors on the 6 classifiers post 6/28/18 will result in all of them being automatically code D.. How am I sandbagging when it is USPSA that has changed the # 's but want the old #' s and the new #'s to both count as good? At the end of the day we as members pay USPSA for the classification system via dues and mission fees, as a member and participant I expect it to be a valid usable tool for me. As of 6/28/18 it is not vary usable . I have said my position , stated my case and been denied I hope everyone enjoys the period of stagnation in the classification system that is comming.

This is pointless I never said I wanted everyone to reset to zero just myself. It is a tool I have used since 1993 when I joined USPSA. With a drastic adjustment in HHF's and the rules of the program counting pre and post adjustment %'s as valid the system is basically frozen for members with old HHF % remaining valid. Request for Limited denied 2014 and M Limited scores from 2006 used in BOD decision IRT PCC today. I am out of this discussion

yes with Limited the last M score I posted was 2/4/2006 and I medically retired from the military in 2009 with a 70% disability rating. I finally got it through my thick head that I couldn’t compete in limited any lounger and gave it up 2014 I have abysmal limited scores from 2006-2014 tons of 20 and 30%ers. BOD's position is that M Limited is still justified... that is why I sold off all my limited gear in 2014 .. so no M level classifier or match performance from 2006-2014 + the 70 % disability is not justification to move down in Limited.

Ben their done that with Limited the last M score I posted was 2/4/2006 and I medically retired from the military in 2009 with a 70% disability rating. I finally got it through my thick head that I couldn’t compete in limited any lounger and gave it up 2014 I have abysmal limited scores from 2006-2014 tons of 20 and 30%ers. BOD's position is that M Limited is still justified... that is why I sold off all my limited gear in 2014.

No you don't the BOD's position is the pre 6/28/18 % is valid to keep you where you are irregardless of their 25% adjustment on 6/28/18. higher scores calculated under the old HHF's prior to 6/28/18 will never drop off of your % as any re-shoots under the New HHF will receive a D by the system. Any new classifiers not already in your pool calculated under the new HHF's will get a B or C code and wont be used.

neither.. Initial PCC HHF's were pulled out of thin air, based on no data and with no understanding of how a PCC has different strengths and weakness than than a pistol...

higher scores calculated under the old HHF's prior to 6/28/18 will never drop off of your % as any re-shoots under the New HHF will receive a D by the system. Any new classifiers not already in your pool calculated under the new HHF's will get a B or C code and wont be used. They raised the bar by 25% to me that makes any score prior to 6/28/18 invalid.. I understand it needed to be done however why should I as a member who pays USPSA to maintain the classification system suffer with being over classed based on invalid data due to their mismanagement of the system we pay them for? I want a total classification wipe to zero ( Unclassifed). I will re-class under the post 6/28/18 HHF's without that the classification system is a totally useless tool for me that I continue to pay for. I see you joined hear in 2016 have no idea how long you have been shooting USPSA, I have been an active USPSA shooter since 1993 the classification system is a tool I have used since day 1 but without a reset to zero it is useless to me based on the rules governing the data currently in the system ( that is now wrong) and new data coming in.

I agree on that, so that makes the old scores and classifications Invalid. Old scores are not the same value post 6/28/18 as they were on 6/27/18. look at the data posted in this thread and you can see a 25% swing both up and down ( 50% total ).

IMO the petition process doesn't apply .. I see nothing in the bylaws that cover the invaladation of the clasifacation system .. the actions taken are outside of the bylaws.. I welcome a zero reset in all divisions

If this was a 1-5% adjustment it would be one thing... but I have seen up to 25% in some of the data from this thread.. to me that is a total invaladation of the system and I want yo have all of my old data dumped and be reset to zero unclassified in all divisions... I will reclas under the new system in the divisions I will shoot now.. shut it is only 28 years of shooting with USPSA so far should only be 4 months to reclass in the 2 divisions I will still shoot in as an old guy

No I disagree on each one of the listed 100% their were an open, a limited and a production GM, M and A shooters that also did the same or better time on the stages including the turn and draw.. they we well above the old 100% in the respective division..the stock in belt start position is equal to a turn and draw in what I saw in the classifiers

Not a good idea PCC got a lot harder, I was at 93.1275% my six redon on the new HHF puts me down to 78.8763% 09-14 100% is now 70.1513% 09-02 100% is now 80.6327% 09-09 86.6667% is now 87.6404% ( only one that went up) 08-03 100% is now 84.4231% 99-62 86.5676 is now 83.3303% 06-05 85.5306% is now 67.0800%

Update have been using Vortex UH-1's on my 2 MPX's since Aug 2017 for USPSA... after trying all of the following optics from my stash: Sig Romeo 4B ( sent back under warranty mount is absolute garbage) Trijicon MRO Trijicon TR21 1.25-4X Green triangle retical Burris MTAC 1-4X Balistic CQ retical S&B Short Dot 1-4X CQB EoTech EXPS 2 T Dot Leupold LCO UH-1 and a CMR-206 green laser is my go 2 setup for USPSA, I still use the EXPS 2 T Dot with a 3X magnifier in PCC only matches that add 50-200Yrd targets. I still have all of the optics (except the Romeo 4B & MTAC) on other 5.56mm, 7.62mm and 6.8mm carbines it was nice to be able to swap things around to experiment in the 1st year of PCC.

Been using them on my 2 MPX's since Aug 2017 for USPSA... after trying all of the following: Sig Romeo 4B ( sent back under warranty) Trijicon MRO Trijicon TR21 1.25-4X Green triangle retical Burris MTAC 1-4X Balistic CQ retical S&B Short Dot 1-4X CQB EoTech EXPS 2 T Dot Leupold LCO I still use the EXPS 2 T Dot with a 3X magnifier in PCC only matches that add 50-200Yrd targets.

I have 13,000 on the Geiselle SD3G in my primary MPX and 3,000 on my backup zero issues and no abnormal wear yet... I had a Geiselle BGRF that started showing abnormal wear at 12.000 rounds and i sent it back and replaced it with the SD3G.. I just consider a trigger in aMPX as a consumable and if I get 2 years ( 28,000) out of one I am happy.

In led we trust = Google it..manufactures lots of after market MPX parts that can be difficult to source from SIG

For my MPX if it is a standard 32 round or less COF I have a 40 rounder in the gun and 2 spare 24 rounders on my belt.. depending on the COF I might change that to: 34 rounder and a 24 rounder on the belt Unloaded start mags on belt = 2 40's down loaded to 38 I have 8ea 40's 2 ea 34's and 2ea 24's use and reload as needed.. I like being able to not have to top off or clean a mag for the next stage