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just wait. If they are obnoxious (the act not personality) then consider the procedural.

Lots of tough talking C-class big boys here who don't need no baby sitting. They will gladly tell you what you can do with your concise and well thought out rulebook.

and here is the other style http://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19093_Aluminum-Mag-Well-Tac-Sport-Silver Edit: this looks like the Czechmate mag well

yes, running the czc extensions so as to get 20 rds in the mags. Guessing you got the CZC springs and followers as well? Those are required for full capacity. If I had it to do all over again I would just start by modding the basepads and maybe it wouldn't be such a bad process. Not sure which one this is but there is one left: http://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19092_Aluminum-Magwell-7585-Silver Edit: this looks to me like the large CZC

I like the large CZC magwell but it was a pain in the butt to get it working correctly with the CZC 140mm extensions. I had to remove a lot of material from the inside of the magwell and then still ended up removing material from the extensions. Also, don't count on any standard magazines without basepads working with that large magwell. I think I have cut some down now so it could work in a punch but I wouldn't want to reload on the clock. I don't know how the Czechmate style works but it if you don't like Dremels and files I would try that one first. My assumption is that you are doing some type of basepad extension?

I guess I shouldn't start down this rabbit hole. I personally wont give someone AYR until they are holding still and wouldn't start the timer unless they remain still.

Jesse, as you know I had a similar question for all of those 12+ round stages where you start with a shotgun and can reload or transition to a pistol. I think you observed that a gun transition should be about equal to loading 4 so anything more than that 12 might almost certainly lean towards pistol. It would be really interesting to get out and see and what point distance on the targets affects that decision one direction or the other. I also need to go back over the FNH stages to see how many would be shotgun optional. It seemed like all of the sug shots were optional meaning no slugs for me this match.

Nope. If they are in the process of resetting (like recovering their balance) then they wouldn't be "physically moving to a more advantageous shooting position or posture" as is stated in 10.2.6. They would be going the other way.

Is there an analogy here with squibs? That is a problem with the shooters equipment as well. Should you just let them keep running and if they blow up their gun its their own fault? I guess it should be up to the shooter to stop themselves and declare they are finished if they have a squib.

Thank you for bringing that up. Every time a get a folksy range command I have to turn around to find out of the RO really wants me to start loading or of he is just screwing around. Since you can get DQed for pulling your gun out of your holster I prefer to have some assurance that whatever the heck you just said means that it's really okay for me to load up.

No way. If the RO stops to have a conversation with you on the clock then either it's a reshoot or DQ.

Given this scenario I would likely get almost to B and start shooting one or two targets as I settle into position.

It has more to do with the completeness of the posted rules but I have even experienced deviation from what had been posted.

I was going to suggest checking #2 as well. Make sure y\that edge is "broken" and it's polished on the underside.

Man up! Use common sense. We follow big boy rules. Things commonly heard at Outlaw matches where the shooters are largely at the mercy of the RO or MD who is making it up as they go along rather than giving shooters a clear understanding about how particular scenarios will be dealt with when shooting at that match. Does the MD really feel that no one ruleset allows them the creativity to set up stages that work for his range? Do they think that the other rules are really too complicated to understand? Maybe it just a power thing where they want to be able to change the rules and dictate how things should be without being held to any particular standards? I do think that multi gun and outlaw rules have made positive influence on USPSA MG rules, especially when it comes to allowing more flexibility to improve match flow by prepping shotguns and using dump barrels. As much as some feel repressed under non-outlaw rules, as a 3 Gun shooter any not a MD, I want to have the assurance of knowing the rules are known and fixed meaning because it helps to provide equality and consistency across all competitors.

I think shooting on the move is often over emphasized. Efficient entries and exits (which could be considered shooting on the move) are much more important over all. Shooting on the move may be great for short to medium range targets that you can hit on the move to another position but it's not always the best thing to do. I shoot mostly Production so working in time for a reload between positions is also another factor that might sometimes lead me to plant and quickly shoot an array versus shooting on the move through it and being left with a static reload a the end. I guess as others have mentioned it is something you need to learn for yourself but make sure you have a timer and are calculating hit factor when you perform your analysis. To summarize, shooting on the move is a great tool but it isn't best for every scenario. Don't try to hard to cram that round peg of shooting on the move into the square hole of each and every field course.

How are you liking that racker? I have a Czechmate one on the way now and someone who can mill it in just in front of the rear sight. Getting some cold feet today on the project as I know I will need some minor holster mods and a bit of practice.

Like if they do it again after you reset their position. Falling out of the start box a second time might be enough for me.

I usually count from 1 to 4 in my head and try to vary between shooters. That way I am still in control and can wait if a shooter starts to creep.

As a RO and CRO I don't really find this to be a problem. I just let them fidget all they want and don't give them a beep until it think they have stopped. Plenty of people will try to get the drop on an RO but those that do are usually pretty easy to read. It they are already out of position I instruct them to get into the proper position again and give them AYR and SB again. I have had plenty try to take advantage but I haven't seen it so obtuse with it that I felt they deserved a procedural. The RO can absolutely control this situation as long as he or she is observant.

Excerpts from a book I am reading, "With winning in mind," by Lanny Bassham "I find it interesting that champions who were consciously trying to win while competing rarely do." "I suggested that instead of setting a goal to win Ben should goal set to make the process of playing well his primary focus. Process is Primary became a theme for the year. Bens job while playing was to think about executing his mental and technical systems and not think about winning. Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer." "When we think about winning while performing, we become outcome-oriented instead of performance-oriented and normally over-trying is the result. Over-trying has caused more good competitors to lose competitions than any other form of mental error. " Thinking about the above and thinking about my own performance I feel like this could be part of my overall challenge with Classifier stages. I have generally performed poorly on classifiers versus other stages in a match and mentally those are generally the stages where I wanted my best performance. I had identified technical shortcomings for classifiers but now I add some mental shortcomings to the list.

I was looking at this earlier and since it would be in front office my rear sight I hope that won't be as big of an issue. It will take a bit of work to get it fitting in my kydex holster though. Worst case it can run it on the right or take it off.

TJ on Natural Point of Aim I have nothing to add to this but found it interesting

If I am ROing I generally just wait until the shooter stops moving and settles in before giving them the buzzer. Generally after two or three seconds they are either in the correct position or have fallen forward out of the shooting box. You have to love the lean... I don't always wait that long; just when it is obvious that someone is trying to jump the gun.

I agree. I think Production jumped the shark when they started allowing milling of slides to install sights and retrofitting Short Reset Trigger Systems that change the external appearance of the gun from stock when cocked. How long ago was that milling ruling made? I can't remember a time when it wasn't legal to mill in sights for Production division. Not like that is something that is done often anyway or really provides a significant competitive advantage. Also, isn't the SRTS just an older CZ disconnector? That isn't nearly as bad as all of the Glock trigger mods that cut back the rear of the trigger safety.