Blackstone45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDNZBhpE4Fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXyAdbEXtFA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXXuUzNcZ_o I struggle to believe that searching for "ron avery grip" gave you no results..... I also don't want to come across as rude, but I think you have your priorities wrong if you're looking for a magical grip that will let you shoot 0.10 splits, when you're struggling to shoot groups at medium distances from your previous thread.

I have a lot of difficulty focusing on the front sight with two eyes open, so I do the Stoeger-esque target focus on everything as well. If I'm shooting precision disciplines, I'll just use an occluder.

The Vogel grip seems to be very physically demanding though, I think that's the main advantage of a c-clamp style grip in that it doesn't require you to brute force the gun down.

Oh this looks interesting, I have a few scratches on my CZ from the previous owner, I could take care of this as well

My CZ SP-01 shadow front sight seems to have been dinged, and a bit of the finish has come off. As a result, the top left corner often LOOKS LIKE it's missing the corner, when in reality it's just the light shining off the now naked metal. What's the best method to blacken this? I've seen people using lighter-based sight blackeners. However, I've got a fibre optic road in my front sight, and don't want to risk melting it.

I recommend this thread re: shooting very fast splits

There's this one from TPC Also check out some of their other videos, including those by the late Ron Avery about wrist tension etc.. But Kim also explains it very well in his paywalled Recoil Management Series video

Great thread, helped answer some questions I had recently about how I could shoot fast splits when my sights felt like they were taking an age to come back down

There's no reason to rush when you're not on the clock.

I also find it impossible to keep the sights still when pressing the trigger really quickly (like 0.3s splits speed). But the front sight doesn't drift by much, and never leaves the rear notches. This would make it an appropriate sight picture for close targets. It really does feel impossible to eliminate any sympathetic movement in my other fingers when I move the index finger at speed. I know one way is to grip the gun harder with the support hand, as that helps reduce any movement. However this seems to cause the gun to recoil up and to the right. I wish I could dedicate hundreds of rounds in a session to test the effects of different grip tensions etc...

Perhaps it's a way of reducing fatigue if you use a very strong grip. But I think a lot of the more recent front-back C-clamp grip techniques, along with the pliable hands is aimed at not needing to deathgrip the gun.

I've been focused on seeing if my sights return to alignment, so I haven't gotten to the point of resetting the trigger mid-recoil. At least, I'm not doing it consciously yet. Watching this video of Ben, he shoots close targets incredibly quickly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnjzVWQkgww There must be a degree of manually helping the gun down, instead of just waiting for the sights to settle automatically? Although having read his latest book, he does talk about not even looking at sights for really close targets.

So I have my sights returning roughly to alignment by themselves about 90% of the time now. But it seems they take too long to do so (I'm talking about what feels like .30s splits). What kind of changes would help with this? How are the top shooters shooting <0.15s splits at close range

Perhaps it's aimed at people who already know what a good trigger pull feels like

With respect, I think this is bad advice. Dry firing should be deliberate practice without distractions. Contrary to popular belief, repeatedly performing the same action doesn't necessarily mean you get good at it. How do you know you're actually squeezing the trigger correctly? You could end up ingraining a bad trigger pull instead.

As others have said, that amount of movement on target is normal. You say there is no problem with your trigger pull and sight alignment. But you only know that to be the case in dry fire. In live fire, the target seems to be telling a different story. I've seen many people claim they're not flinching or jerking the trigger, and it's only when I load their magazines with a mixture of snap caps and live rounds, that they can see what's happening for themselves. I'm not saying that's definitely what's happening in your case, but at this stage, you need to find someone who can help you in person.

I could be wrong, but from his latest Instagram video, he doesn't have his support index finger wrapped around the front of the trigger guard.

Isn't Eric Grauffel a more accomplished shooter than Tyc

I don't think he's dismissing trigger control, more that OP has clearly said many times he is experiencing shaking which results in more movement that would be naturally expected. That said, OP also said: If you take this approach, where you're trying to shoot when you think you're on target, that lends itself to poor trigger control and/or poor sight alignment. The problem is, you won't realise this. You THINK you're doing everything correct, but when you focus on chasing that perfect bullseye, you aren't focusing on your trigger pull and sights.

Thanks, will try this. One of my biggest issues before was that my support hand would loosen after a couple of shots, and I was always told that I wasn't gripping hard enough.

Now that you mention it, my sights track up and to the right. While it arguably doesn't matter which way the sights move as long as they come back down aligned, this is still symptomatic of too much weak hand pressure, right?

Through a combination of Hwansik Kim's videos and other top shooters' take on grip, I think I'm getting very close to a grip that lets the sights resettle themselves. However, I've encountered a problem where my support hand is crushing the middle finger of the shooting hand into the gun's grip, to the point that it's actually quite painful and remains rather tender. And when I dry fire everyday, it means little respite for it. Has anyone else experienced this?

Yes I'd be curious to see how much movement there is, and also a video of the laser on the target downrange.

Ammo is not the thing you need to be concerned about. If you're shaking, maybe you're gripping the gun too hard. Maybe you do need to hit the weights a bit. Buy some resistance bands and do reps while holding them in your hands in the same stance you would shoot a pistol in.

What kind of movement are you experiencing? Are you actually shaking or twitching? If you set up an IPSC target at 33yrds, how far out does your movement take you? Into the D zone? How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? I don't know if it's more about muscle strength. I'm a pretty weak guy, I have barely any biceps and my forearm is far from ripped. But I have no problem holding the gun still enough, even in one-handed bullseye shooting.