Sherwyn

In phone conversation with them, I was told there was "NO ISSUE and nothing has been reported to us"

Is this what you are looking for 9.4.2 Each hit visible on the scoring area of a paper no-shoot will be penalized the equivalent of twice the point value of a maximum scoring hit.

Actually there is a 30 rd, a couple 8 rd, a 16 and one at 24...guess that does leave a few at 32 Admit it Sherwyn, you just want to make the open shooters reload. Yes there will be a couple reloads in the match - even the 16 round course has a reload Setup is going very well ... hope all that are joining us have a great match. Looking forward to seeing everyone soon. Sherwyn

Actually there is a 30 rd, a couple 8 rd, a 16 and one at 24...guess that does leave a few at 32 Getting ready to start setup this weekend. Still lots of room to shoot on Friday Sherwyn

Don't forget that best 2 is normal...but WSB can state a different value...

Yes, it should say pm. You will shoot more stages on Saturday than on Sunday when you will start earlier than noon. Had some trouble with matrix timing last year so we are still working on exact details (number of full squads may affect it). We will target having everyone done early afternoon on Sunday. Hope that helps, Glad you can make it. Sherwyn

Might just be me - but I would not do a reload on either of these stages and just take the 1 procedural for the shot that should have been fired after the reload.

Sorry to announce that the Great Plains sectional scheduled for June 3 is cancelled. Safety issue has temporarily closed the range. Thanks to all that offered to help move the match, but there just isn't enough time to change range schedules. Sherwyn

Match hotel Quality Inn andConference Center 7838S Hwy 281 (I-80 Exit 312), Grand Island 308-384-7770 Competitor rate of $84.95

We will have 8 stages (couple interesting ones) and over 230 rounds. Match application 2012_GP_Sectional_entry.pdf Sherwyn

I agree it is probably a non-issue. If you back off the set screw that limits the hand rotating the shell plate, the tool head rotation will probably go away, but be careful as you may replace the tool head rotation with over rotation of the shell plate. When the hand hits the stop, if the press is not at full stroke, the ram has to rotate as the cam pushes further on the lever. Sherwyn

Try 3N38 -- lots of gas / flash at top end. Visible flash in sunlight

I try to avoid using disappearing targets Sherwyn

Just have to add a twist. Even if you know 100% that the targets were scored in order. Do you really know that the previous shooter didn't fire 3 rounds?

Match application 2012-A3_entry1.doc

Great Plains sectional June 3, 2012 Sioux Falls, South Dakota Minimum 8 stages - Plague only match Additional information available at Sioux Falls Practical Shooters as available Sherwyn

2012 USPSA Area 3 Championship sponsored by Hornady August 2-5 2012 Heartland Practical Shooters Host range - Heartland Public Shooting Park Grand Island, Nebraska Additional information will be available on Area 3 website as available - entry not yet online Sherwyn

Well, I saw this a little late (been a little busy) and just went through the whole thing...now that I did, I wish I hadn't. My vote was based on what I had heard at local club matches. No I don't shoot much production, usually shooting open, in fact my son and I are the majority of the open shooters in our club. Production is very often the most popular division at many matches I attend. Did I ask the question "do you want a 3# trigger pull limit? No I did not, but know that I had many discussions that trigger work needed to be controlled in production. So I did feel that I was voting with information and with Handgun rules on the agenda, was not surprised that it came up. So far I have received 1 e-mail asking about this vote. There are a lot of spots up for election on the BOD this year, after reading this I expect that there will be numerous candidates for each spot. My e-mail and phone number are on the area 3 website if anyone wants to discuss this or anything else with me. Sherwyn

No debate needed. Replica define by Webster is: 'A copy exact in all details or reproduction' This brings up a good question. What about an Open shooter holding a Cmore? It is not a gun or gun replica so I say it's fine. But would everybody see it that way? I say its good. I thouhht about mounting iron sights to a old mag. Notice that the rule states "as sighting aids" ....so if you have some type of simulated sight....it would be a replica of at least part of a gun. Sherwyn

Might want to consider buying the original. Max is a great guy to work with. Max Trap

The swinging no-shoots were steel...so no issues with shoot through. Sherwyn Poppers behind the swinging no-shoots? I would not do that because if you hit a popper with a bullet that goes through a no-shoot it an equipment failure and the stage has to be reshot. And I can see now that problem with a swinging no-shoot and a paper target, if a bullet goes through a no-shoot and hits a paper target, the shot does not score. But, if you have a no-shoot hit and an A and C hit on the paper, which scoring hit is the one that went through the no-shoot and does not count? So, there's the real problem which makes this a non-starter. BUT, it might be possible to use something as softcover instead. So, you could have a swinging soft-cover.

Used some swinging no shoots at Area 3 this year Not sure how to put it in here, but you tube video at What you don't see is 4 poppers that must be shot between swinging no-shoots -- third one of which drops the outside hard cover Sherwyn

Had a set on my Tundra. Good ride and quiet. BUT, they are soft and mileage will be low. I pulled the set off at about 30,000 when I ruined the second one, and there was not enough left to justify another replacement. Both tires punctured at 70 mph, on front of truck noticed and stopped immediately, yet both were ruined. Sherwyn

The rule that ALLOWS targets to be considered disappearing requires the designed movement to COMPLETE AND be at rest with not being visible. The rule doesn't compel the shooter to continually activate them - the course does. Because the targets CAN move again by course design, means the movement NEVER completes. You're going to disagree with that. You keep going to the rule that requires activation. Consider them non-disappearing targets for a second - which rule requires activation before engaging a moving target? You are boot strapping the activation rule for disappearing targets to MAKE them disappearing targets. That doesn't work. Look at the course design and forget about the competitor action required to expose those targets. The targets go up and go down, can they go up again, and again, and again - does it ever stop, regardless of competitor action? Nothing prevents them from going up again except for the competitor CHOOSING not to raise them again. Therefore, they never complete. If they are not disappearing targets - there are NO rules (except for the level 1 exception) that requires ANYTHING about activation, whether the first time or multiple times. When a competitor can choose not to expose targets again, they can never complete their designed movement. Just because the targets CAN move again, does not require they MUST move again. They were designed to appear or move by pulling the lever and disappear when the lever was released. They have at that time completed their designed movement. So what part of 9.9.3 says you only have to activate once? 9.9.3 Moving scoring targets will always incur failure to shoot at and miss penalties if a competitor fails to activate the mechanism which initiates the target movement.

So by what you have said, a star (moving target) activated by a door...is a disappearing target if the door is closed after activation. Now you would have to explain why the door (a prop) is any different from an activation rope (a prop).