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In person I'd probably be less tactful. On the webz there's really no point.

Guess that applies to this guy too? Maybe he thinks his shooting isn't enough to get your attention?

These might be the dumbest/cringiest things I've read on Enos in a long time.... And that's saying something. Sorry to break it to ya bud.... But no one wants your attention.

People say funny things from D all the way to GM. Placebo and group-think is a heck of a drug.

Lulz.

The new design is, for all intents and purposes, an FMJ with no exposed lead base, and the tip of the nose clipped off. It will not perform well terminally (and is not designed to). It is an "everything you need, nothing you don't" approach to competitive/recreational projectiles. The "legacy" 9mm JHP requires extra tooling/processes during the manufacturing process due to how the jacket is drawn and skived, and it gets a slightly thicker jacket material to aid in terminal performance. The new design is also manufactured on more efficient equipment. Due to all of this, at some point when things normalize a little, the new design will offer a more attractive price point to competitors and recreational shooters that need an accurate JHP, but don't need the other features of our "legacy" design. You'd also be surprised how many people have guns that don't like to feed conical, flat nosed projectiles. It's a common complaint, especially with PCC's these days. The new design is "at home" in 38SC and standard 9mm, but we have a ton of 9mm Major shooters using them as well. My standard answer is.... If you are currently using and like the "legacy" JHP, there is probably no reason to experiment with the new design (although we have seen many customers make the switch). However, if you are setting up a new Open gun, PCC, etc. and want to use a JHP, I'd recommend starting with the new design. In the future, when we can open up the delta in price between the two options, the new design will become more attractive as well. Ultimately, every gun/shooter is different, and customers having more options is a good thing.

Well there ya go. You are most likely the case I am referring to then. Since their "release" I don't believe there have been any reported quality issues or returns.

Did you inform PD of these issues? When did you encounter them? If anything, the new design is (on average) held to a tighter weight tolerance than the "original" due to the equipment and techniques used to manufacture them. Generally speaking, I think most will find that PD holds one of the tightest weight tolerances in the industry. I am only aware of one report of weight issues on the new design since their release, and it was in one of the very first runs of these projectiles. It was due to what we call "short cores" and was an isolated operator error, and not a manufacturing variance. To my knowledge, based on investigation, it was isolated to a couple of boxes of bullets. There have been no other quality issues of note regarding the new design.... And if there has been, they were not reported to PD.

Terminal performance was not a consideration when designing the new PD JHP. It was designed to be a competitive/recreational JHP, and will most likely exhibit no favorable terminal characteristics when fired into ballistic gel. Copper prices continue to head north, and availability is abysmal. Lead is as high as we've seen it in a long time, and availability is tough for some companies. I can tell you that some companies that do not have the ability to pour their own billets or extrude their own wire are having to search for material. Shipping costs continue to tick upward too. I say all that to say, I don't think you'll see prices coming back down anytime soon (although I don't have a crystal ball). Anywho... Since pricing is being discussed.... How does a sale on PD 124JHPs for next 24-48 hours sound? It won't be advertised anywhere else, just here. Thanks to those that use PD products. Use code ENOSDEAL at checkout. https://www.precisiondelta.com/products/9mm-124gr-jhp/

Look up the results from 2016 Limited/Open Nats. There was a 1 shot to a popper "stage". That will be about the best "real" data of what USPSA competitor draw times are (or can be) in a match setting.

You may be able to sell some to a local yard, in small enough quantities that they can mix it in with other scrap. But I can tell you that in large quantities no processors/refiners/mills will touch them (as silly as that is).

It doesn't matter. Put it somewhere that feels halfway normal to you and get used to it. For SC, maybe get a little more nuanced than that, but for USPSA, bolt it to your belt and move onto something else.

I have a slew of mags with Zev and TTI base pads, and none of them are trustworthy with 23 rounds. I have a couple that will take 23, but they'll barely lock in, and 50% of the time they cause a malfunction because of the amount of force they exert on the slide.

Lulz.

double.

As were trucker hats, speed leather, single port comp'd .45s, and Hy-Wyd's. And to be honest, I wouldn't be sad if all of the above came back into vouge.

I do think this is a fallacy that gets perpetuated too much.... That a dot is going to magically make you a "better/faster" shooter. People swap and end up panicking because it's not "easy" like its "supposed" to be. Which in-turn, kind of causes some to grasp at magic solutions. Kind of like when everyone thought that flipping a Cmore on it's side was the magic wand for losing the dot. Look at what you want to shoot with both eyes, and put the dot on it. This always has been, and still is the joy of RDS's. No focus shifting needed. If you think you may be giving to dot too much attention, work on it. Or MAYBE, sometimes seeing things in a way that works for your brain, might be worth exploiting.

I think you may have hit on something here.... But not necessarily in the way you mean.

How is this giant struggle to look at the target just now raising its head after Open shooters have been shooting dots for decades? It literally used to be one of the allures of Open. “I can just look at the target now! It’s so much easier and faster!” Focus struggles (with a rds) never used to be much of a talking point around here (and lord knows EVERYTHING gets harped on here). I honestly cannot remember the last time an Open shooter said to me “I’m really struggling with focusing on the dot too much”. But lately, it seems like every third CO shooter I run into has that complaint. I seriously think this “focus” fad is causing people to make mountains out of mole hills, and in some cases causing people to try and “correct” how THEIR eyes and brain perceive things, when it isn’t actually an issue. Brian famously said “see what you need to see”. I think that may hold more water now than ever.

Charlie in here throwing down truths as usual. I’m going to be more blunt. Covering your RDS lens as a training aid or shooting aid is stupid. Don’t do it. Don’t purposefully limit your visual input/feedback. If you’ve tried it and you think it helps it’s most likely placebo or confirmation bias. Turn your dot down, swap to a smaller dot, or use some training techniques to develop your focus. Stop obscuring your vision. My biggest gripe with this fad, is that many times it’s causing people to “inspect” an issue into their shooting that isn’t actually there. Unlike irons, shooting a dot is pretty darn intuitive… if you allow it to be.

Well, from what I’ve seen the Sig barrels vary somewhat. But here’s a Sig, VS BarSto.

Pictures of the failure. As you can see, it's more of the same.

We actually received another report of a "blown out 320 extractor" from a department just this morning.

Exactly. 320 owners didn't just suddenly start buying and loading bad ammo. The oddly short chambers, and their (admitted) ability to fire at least somewhat OOB is what is causing many of these occurrences IMO.