jcwren

No thanks. If you can't be bothered to document it, I can't be bothered wasting time looking at it.

It does come with the Root'n-Score-It kit, but it's disabled. If you rooted with a very old kit, or the original one that RASI is based on, it's enabled by default. One of the things RASI does on the second reboot is run through and set tweaks that make it better for scoring. Disabling Button Savior is one, another is locking the desktop, and a few other things like that.

Personally, I feel that if someone didn't check their scores, and they're incorrect, that's too bad, and the awards stand. I'm of the opinion that the incorrect scores are what should be uploaded to USPSA (and PractiScore), but for the purposes of submitting an activity report, they should be corrected. Just because someone had the wrong score in the system (but it's correct on paper) doesn't mean they should be penalized if it affects the classification percentage.

It's not a memory pressure issue, it's a failure to properly initialize some application crash reporting code. Re-entering the application while on certain screens seems to have something to do with it.

1.2.28 is beta, and not ready for prime-time. 1.2.27 is safe enough, IF you stay in the PractiScore app (e.g., don't go and use your camera or other programs while you're actively scoring. If you must, exit PractiScore cleanly first). There is a change log available. On the main screen, tap the build number. Some people report it takes a little fumbling around to get it to come up, but I've not encountered that.

The first problem is using EZWS 4.05. That version is deprecated. Update to 4.13. Importing the registration is done by going to Setup->Registration->Registration Import (far right tab, #6 of 6), then clicking the 'Import Registration' button. This will open a file selection dialog, where you can then select the 'reg.txt' file.

1.2.26, actually. http://rootnscoreit.com/

Ran a match on 8.3 this weekend, without any issues. The 8.3 upgrade doesn't *appear* to have any real impact on applications, like the change from 7.x to 8.x did. And WiFi stability seems to be slightly improved. Maybe PS support for the Apple Watch? We put Bluetooth tags on all the target stands, and as you stand next to the target, it brings up that target for scoring Although I still wish you could point the iPad or iPhone at the target, and have it score automatically. You'd have a recorded image of the target for arbitrations, plus a digital overlay, zoom and enhance...

I'm building a comprehensive list of match signup services. I'm hoping to have a features and pros/cons list when I'm done. These are the one I can remember so far this morning: squadsignup.com matchsignup.org shootnscoreit.com clubs.practiscore.com uspsa.com Any others?

Nice review, BJinPass. Looks promising, I think I'll buy one to play with. The only cost downside I see is the probable necessity of adding a case of some kind. Cases are the razor blade of the Schick business model. I have a couple NOOKs that have clearly been dropped, but not broken. Atlanta 3-Gun, who uses iPad Mini's, had someone drop one and it landed face down on a rock, and shattered the screen. The case was a LifeProof nud', which doesn't have the screen protector. I'm curious if that would have saved it or not. And these should work as well as any other capacitive touch system in the rain. Not having that raised bezel for the IR field that the NOOK has, there's no place for dust to collect, which is a definite plus. I'm not sure about the overheating issues, as we haven't run into that here in the GA summers (that I'm aware of). I do know that in direct sunlight, the touch system can get wonky because of the IR component in sunlight. Simply shading the screen with your body has been enough to solve that particular problem. The IR touch system is also why it doesn't work in a ziplock bag, or any case that puts something between your finger and the screen. Your finger looks like something the size of a quarter to the touch system, and can't cope with that. Generally it looks like you're touching random areas of the screen.

Next to trivial? Do tell, please. And you can import directly from EZWS? How does that work?

That would seem to indicate that people are exporting the match multiple times out of EzWinScore, posting to PractiScore after each export. I can't envision a valid use case for doing that.

I've updated the ezws2ps (EzWinScore to PractiScore) converter to version 1.0.4. Changes: Fixed an issue with multi-string times in scores not being correctly copied to the PractiScore .psc file when 'Include Scores' is checked. Added knowledge of classifier stages so when a classifier is present, the hits per target is known instead of inferred. This issue affected classifiers CM99-02, CM99-09 and CM99-63 not having the number of hits on each target defined correctly. Added support for target type. If target type is defined as Classic in EzWinScore, then 'Classic Targets (No B Zone)' is checked in PractiScore. Added support to force target NPMs to number of hits per target when scoring is fixed time (PractiScore iOS already did this internally, not sure about Android, but it's the "correct" way to define the stage). The page at http://www.tinymicros.com/wiki/ezws2ps has been updated. The updated version is available via the download link on that page, or directly from https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12548441/ezws2ps.zip The zip file has both the previous version and the current version. The previous version is named 'ezws2ps_103.exe' while the current version is named 'ezws2ps.exe'. If you find any issues, please let me know at jcwren@jcwren.com. You could post in this thread, but I'm not a big fan of using forums as a support system. Edited 2014-11-27 11:58 -- Changed 'defined as IPSC' to 'defined as Classic'. Thanks to Roger M. for catching this documentation error.

Yes. And Root'n-Score-It makes it trivially easy to do.

Eugene is right. I mentioned iPads above, that should actually be iPad Minis. Currently, even the oldest iPad Mini will run iOS 8.1, so PractiScore should be supported for a good while. But there will come a point when Apple stops supporting the older devices, and PractiScore may reach a point where it needs a more recent version of iOS to support new features (although right now, PS is supported on iOS versions as far back as 4.0, I believe).

NOOK pros: Cheap (~$40) Sunlight readable Phenomenal battery life NOOK cons: Slightly slow Can't be used in a rain/dust-proof case Not a current product (but still readily available) Other Android devices: More expensive (generally $100+) Easier to break Generally not sunlight readable Adequate battery life for short matches iPads pros: Faster Software currently supports more match types Can use in a rain/dust-proof case iPad cons: Expensive ($180+ for a new 16GB WiFi-only non-Retina) Harder to read in sunlight Miserable battery life when the screen brightness is cranked up (otherwise OK) More desirable to theft For outdoor matches, it basically boils down to iPads or NOOKs. How much money do you have? I've got 10 personal NOOKs, 10 for another club, 9 for another, 15 for another, 12 for another, 10 for another, and another 10 or 12 between several week clubs. I've had one unit fail, where the touch detection system has gone wonky. One of the clubs hashad 10 iPads. Now they have 9. One got dropped in a LifeProof case and shattered the screen. So maybe it's a LifeResistant case. $40 for a bad NOOK, one of 70 or so. $180 for a dropped iPad, one of 10. Math wins.

I'd suggest a NOOK. A glowlight is a NOOK that's slightly more expensive, and offers no benefit. You said "We don't want to go NOS. NOOKs". Why not?

Why not NOOKs?

Not on the Paperwhite. They are running Android on the Fire series. The Paperwhite runs Linux (which Android is built on top of), but is not an Android device.

Jim, That's viable as far as NOOKs go, assuming people do have SD cards installed (it's not a requirement one be present, unless you need to use Dropbox). But it's also a somewhat centric solution, in that other devices, like Nexus 7 tablets, don't have an SD card slot.

My problem with lack of paper has to do with match reconstruction. Anyone can *always* rebuild a match from paper. Having it an electronic format requires a lot more specific knowledge. Emailing scores to competitors is great. They love it. They also, as a whole, like their paper. It's tangible. It can be easily shown. Not everyone has a smart phone, and there are more than several shooters I know that don't have phones. I also know shooters that don't bring them to matches, for reasons ranging from "no coverage" to "don't want to lose it". I'd love to remove the hand transcription process from screen to paper. A ticket printer would be simply awesome. But it'll be a long day out before I'm willing to run any L2+ match without real paper score sheets, or a local match without short-form backup sheets. I don't care what kind of provisions the rules make for not having paper backup, you won't find me working a match where there's not. I've been writing software for over 30 years, seen computers go from giant-assed mainframes to their equivalents that you can hold in your palm (or lose in your pocket), written in dozens of programming languages, under many different operating systems, using a number of different development methodologies. Regardless of my love for technology, I accept the fact that it's fallible, and that what we're doing with PS requires a certain level of knowledge that a very large number of people don't have. Any electronic system is great, when it works (which can be 99.44% of the time). But when the shit hits the fan, you better know how to recover your match. Equally importantly, you need to be able to recognize that there IS a problem. Issues can be pretty subtle, and until you go to hand out awards, you might not realize just how screwed into a corner you've gotten yourself. PractiScore rules, but paper is my ultimate safety net.

If you are downloading the file from this page, https://practiscore.com/, by clicking the 'Download the APK', and you are getting a file named something other than 'practiscore.apk', your browser is screwing up. You don't need to unzip anything. Simply place the file in Dropbox from the PC, then on the NOOK, open Dropbox, tap on the file, and it should present the option to install. For Dropbox to work on the NOOK, you will need an SD card installed.

Should be pretty easy to hear with ear protection and over the sounds of gun-fire in adjacent bays. STT would be more useful. If the device could hear "2 alpha!" and populate the score box, that would be cool (barring how actually impractical it might be)

Can I take this to mean you're not using any form of paper backup in your matches? While this is USPSA-specific, this is what we use at ALL level 1 matches. https://www.dropbox.com/s/x98l6fwrrj90g2x/PS%20Score%20Backup%20V2.pdf?dl=0 For level 2 and up matches, we use 2-part carbonless forms.

Sorry, the wording "They all just updated to the latest version of PS yesterday." led me to believe they had done it by themselves. Regardless, automatically updating software is evil. I especially despise it when there's no way to revert to previous versions, or it's exceedingly painful to revert (like, oh... say, APPLE!)