Chuck Anderson

That's one of the nicest recalls I've seen in a while. Yes we have a problem, yes we're gonna fix it, no it's not going to cost you anything and we'll give you something for your time. Doesn't get much better than that.

Apparently it's harder than you think. It's normally not just programming a machine +1". There are some variables that go into it, look at Glocks 34. My opinion is that S&W probably is seriously in the gun business and are probably selling the heck out of the M&P so much that they don't want/need to tie up the machine time with making a long slide. Feel free to try and catch the CEO. My guess is he won't have a clue what you're talking about.

I had really good luck with the Win AA 7.5's. The shells are nice and smooth so they loaded really easily. The one recommendation that I heard recently was always go with 1 1/8 oz shot. Avoid the 1 oz loads. I've used both without problem, but the guy who told me weilds a shotgun a lot more effectively than me.

Glock makes the perfect intro to USPSA gun. They are more than accurate enough, reliable, easy to learn and manipulate and cheap to purchase. Magazines are inexpensive, everybody under the son makes aftermarket parts and accessories for them and they are easy for anybody to work on. Also in a divsion with no minimum trigger pull having a gun with a 2 pound trigger on every shot is nicer than having a gun with a 6 pound trigger then a bunch of 2 pound trigger pulls. Glock did have a lead on everyone else, when production division started. Glock was the leader in LE sales, by a lot. Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson (were they even making semi-autos in the 1999?) all had issues, big grips, DA triggers that were ridiculously heavy expensive mags, or something else that let Glock move in and kick butt. Now with the introduction of factory racing teams (again) and custom shops, some of those issues are going away. Also everyone is jumping on the polymer bandwagon. CZ was the first company to solve the DA issue on a big scale with the CZ-USA custom shop offering custom SP-01's from the company. This is a big deal. Who really wants to spend $100.00 with UPS to ship their gun back and forth to a gunsmith for a $100.00 trigger job. It also helped that CZ has a strong factory shooting team. Oh yeah, and a world champion in 2005. My money is on Glock losing market share over the next 2 years in USPSA. CZ will gain, Smith will gain, Springfield might gain. Glock really hasn't changed much over the last several years. Other than the FGR grips, and some minor internal stuff. The biggest change has been in the calibers we don't use in Production, right now .45. Glock, while they're a great company is a little less than receptive to outside suggestions. Can you imagine how well a Sevigny Series 34 would sell? All the work done to Dave's specifications. Dave doesn't do that much to his production guns but the little does would be great to have done by the factory.

PM sent in an effort to not completely derail this thread.

I love it when pedestrians tell me they have the right of way. That's great. You can argue it from a hospital bed or a grave. If a car is going to hit you, don't step out in front of it. And don't get me started on bikes.

Frankly, you are knocking other designs you haven't tried. You make a bold statement that PAI is the best comp. Bar none. When folks try to say that they've had good luck with other designs you argue with them and say that they don't have the data to back it up. If a 50 year old article on recoil control is what you're basing this on good luck convincing guys here that your buddies design is better. 3-Gun requires more than the ability to watch shots hit at x distance, or pure recoil control. That's why no one uses a suppressor and plans on being competetive. If you think that the top guys are using x design because the gunsmiths are showering them with sponsorship and free parts, you're wrong. These guys are using whatever design they think they will be competetive with. For three gun there are a lot of factors that go into a good break, recoil control, muzzle rise, back blast, how much dust is kicked up when shooting prone, weight, pointability. I've shot comps that are too effective before, they push the muzzle of the rifle down and off target. I've used a couple different designs on my three gun rifles. I'm currently using JP and SureFire muzzle breaks, depending on what I'm doing. I don't see a huge difference between either one. I've used the Miculek brake before and didnt' like it. Doesn't mean it's not a good comp, just not to my liking. It's obvious you like the PAI comp. Good, I'm sure it works well for you. But the question at the beginning of the thread was what are heavy metal shooters using. Is there a single Heavy Metal shooter using the PAI comp?

I've stayed there a couple years. It's a nice hotel. By far the nicest La Quinta I've ever stayed at.

I said 5-10 times, I figured it was somewhere in there. I was shocked to see it happen at all because I know how good the rifle has been for you. It's just frustrating to see it happen to someone who is shooting so dang well. I'm not surprised that you beat Lund in arm wrestling. He has those little girly arms. Oops, I guess I did pick on Erik. I'm gonna go hide now.

I'll be there. Just got a slot at the last minute. I'm shooting Sat/Sun but I'm not sure on what squad. I'll be shooting Production.

Beaverton and Newberg, Oregon. Beaverton has photo radar and photo red light. Newberg just has the one Photo red light.

Dude, I've been shooting for Team CZ since last year rocking my SP-01. And you know I would never diss Kelly. His goofy rifle maybe. Kelly shot awesome. Finishing first even with the gun puking on him as often as it did is an awesome accomplishment. But it proves my point as well. Would you have finished first with a gun that malfunctioned 5-10 times? And I would never pick on Erik Lund. I'm afraid he would just stare at me with those malevolent eyes and kill me where I stand.

They did an episode of Mythbusters on those. They don't work. And I can guarantee you if a cop spots one it is an instant ticket. In Oregon it's about a $240.00 ticket. Yep, I hate photo radar. I think it takes away all the discretion from the officer issuing the ticket, does nothing to promote traffic safety and just seems to piss everyone off in general.

I so enjoy needling you. Actually there were only 4 targets at the match that I would consider long range, 300+. Skip them and add 20 seconds per stage. Winning stage time was what 34 ish on one stage and I think in the 60's on the other? I watched several folks who did quite well take 10-15 seconds shooting the long range targets. Throw two quick rounds out, 1 second and your only dropping 10 ish seconds per stage. That's entirely doable. And that's the worst case. As far as Iron's being better up close. Okay, I'll buy that. Let's say that Irons are better inside 25 yds. (I know for some folks it will be further but 25 will work for this) With the exception of 16 shots at the match, everything was about 25 yds or closer. Of those 16, 4 of them were possible to blow off. That leaves 11 shots between 100 and 200 yds. I think there was one at 246 but I heard different ranges on that target. 16 shots at more than 25 yds, and...well a lot more than that inside of 25 yds. As far as the prize table it sucks that they gave you incorrect information. If you were planning to shoot irons the way they have in the past, you were still entering a divison with only 21 people in it. The scores were just added to the TS Division. You still only compete head to head on the stages that don't have rifle. Everything else is TI against TI. And yes, I know the TI times were awesome at this match. I'm pretty sure you guys won a stage or two outright. As far as my vision, it actually did get better. I got glasses at the end of February and I can see a lot better with them. I haven't put them to the test with an Iron sight rifle (other than sighting in an 11.5 inch M-16 but I don't think that was the best gun to judge with). As far as Bruce, Craig and Nils, I'm sure everyone of them could, and did beat me. But you're talking to a guy who shoots Production. I'm used to shooting in a smaller Division. I know dang well that if there are less people there more ability to flub a stage and still finish well. Look at Kelly's match. Kelly is a great shooter, but he had some nasty gun problems and still won the match. I guarantee you that if he had been in TS or even competing heads up with the rest of HM that would not have been the case.

I think there was only about 10 rifles actually. If there was 13, there would have been one left for me and there wasn't. Trying to use the numbers of rifles on the table really doesn't work. The table coordinator is trying to balance the total value of the table as well as the top couple prizes. I've done this more than once my self and I've got to say, if one division has 150 competitors and the other division has 1/7 that number, there's gonna be more prizes on the 150 table.

Is that 10% higher match points based on heads up competition or TS vs TI scores. Neither is a truly fair comparison. This was actually a very Limited rifle friendly match. Two of the 11 stages had long range rifle. And even that was only 4 shots. You could actually just blow them off and still do pretty well on the stage. There were a couple of mid range shots that didn't seem that hard with irons. And all the rest of the rifle shots were way close. Besides this wasn't a three gun match anyway. It was a shotgun match with some rifle and a little bit of pistol thrown in. Sorry Kurt, if you're going into a division with only 21 people the prizes are going to be small. You're more than welcome to throw a scope on and come play with the big boys though.

Getting three squads that finish at the same time or shutting squads down in the middle is not easy. This is the first time in the last couple years that they have not had to throw out one of the long range stages because of being way over time. (It's usually whatever one I finish the best on). I thought the Larue's worked well this year. I did get burned badly by the RO on Stage 6 not calling a hit. Part my fault part the way they were running it. I shot one target out of order and he wasn't watching it. Took a good several seconds to get another hit on it. You really need to have more than one RO watching if you're using flash targets.

I'm not sure if OSU's program is official or not but we normally have 1/2 dozen OSU shooters at least come to our matches in Albany. The school's engineering dept is even working on a really cool piece of equipment for the range that should be profitable and help the environment. It's neat to see the school doing this. I wish I could have gone. (Well I was at SMM3G in the 80+ degree weather and I heard it snowed, hailed and rained while I was gone. Who am I kidding.) Maybe next year it will be on a different weekend. Good job Andy and the rest of the OSU crew.

I would say that having a box mag at a match with this much ammunition selection would be a detriment. Switching back and forth between bird, buck and slugs on a stage is definitely not a forte of the box mag. A straight 24 round bird shot USPSA type stage, sure. Shoot a couple slugs, shoot a bunch of bird, shoot some more slugs, not so much. I think for IPSC type shooting, box mag = or less than tube. For USPSA, still in the air.

Fri PM/Sat AM is essentially full. There are only two to three spots left. Fri AM/Sat PM is about half full and Fri AM/PM is pretty open. The match is about 3/4 full. If you don't want to miss out, get your app in soon. There has also been a lot of confusion about squadding. Some of that is probably my fault since this is the first time I've squadded a match this side. Couple of things. If you request a shooting period, we will honor that before squadding requests. So if you an your buddy request to be squadded together but you pick different days, you're not going to be shooting together. If you pick a shooting period where there are only a couple spots left scattered across three different squads, you might not be shooting together. I'm not going to move someone who has a squadding request in, and who got their app to us in a timely manner, it's just not fair. We'll do our best to get everyone on a workable schedule, but the sooner you get apps in the better chance we have of getting you where you want to shoot. Chuck

My guess, and it is only that, would be that they would try to do something logical with single stack. Like making it a division for single stacks, not just 1911's. Since there are a lot of countries involved in IPSC, many of them do not have the heritage with the 1911 that the US does. However the HK P7M8, Sig 220, S&W 4506, 3913 etc. could make good guns for competition, especially for folks with smaller hands. Maybe innovative could mean actually allowing the majority of single stacks types into the division called single stack instead of picking one arbitrary set of rules and saying the 1911 is the only way to go.

I see that you are new to the forums and may be used to the other forums that are a bit less...civilized. The fact that you have an opinion is great. However, people have opinions as well and probably don't need to be denigrated or talked down to for having them. The rules are the rules. Heavy Metal is still in evolution. Just because your club doesn't shoot it that way doesn't make your club right and USPSA wrong. So you know, the clubs that started HM and run it regularly don't use your rules either. I'm not sure where you got them.

I have a Beta C-Mag, and a DPMS 45 rounder that have been 100%. I also have an unknown brand 40 rounder that has been perfect as long as it is only loaded with 38 rounds. I picked it up at a gun show not expecting it to work for under $10.00. For most stages the coupled 30's work just fine. There are times when the mag change just isn't possible without burning time. Specifically I'm thinking of the rollercoaster stage at SMM3G. It's better to have it in reserve and not need it IMO.

I've been certified a couple times as an RO and have been through the classes a couple times as well. My last test got lost in the mail heading to the instructor and I just didn't feel like re-doing it. I'm presently uncertified and not an RO, although Area Director keeps threatening to have that changed.

The G34 was around when IPSC introduced Production in 1999 and the US introduced it shortly after. IPSC rules were created, including the 5" rule at the time of inception, to preclude the G34 from being the dominant gun. Also most other guns at the time had a shorter barrel so they didn't want to create a disparity. It has never been legal for IPSC Production.