Kevin Kline

Pat, Not that I am aware of, but you should be familiar with the Dr. Collins (start in the box and shoot them as you can see them) type of stages. There will be 10 stages with a total of 294 rounds. DO NOT zero your gun at 10-15 yards and think that it will be fine, it will not be. Be prepared to shoot plates at 25+ yards and you will be fine. Lots of run and gun field courses with mostly open targets ... you know, easy ones like at the Open! Leo, Turtle/Amoeba targets like the Open too?

If I remember correctly, SmittyFL won Limited, Kevin Insco (who I had the pleasure to be squadded with) won Production and Lesgar won Open. Yeah! Kevin won Production. ................. I just got lucky with a few good runs. Daniel, I told you to take the popper. It was a blast seeing and shooting with everyone.

Any idea on when Shooting USA will air it? BTW, Congrats Phil. Phil, you still remember how them lights thingsamajiggers work after retiring? Hopefully Tom still makes you guys play a little in the dark world? Good luck!

Thanks Joe!

Joe, What is their phone/contact info? I would like to contact them about a bullet order. Thanks,

Are Beer Creeks bullets still in business and for sale? I couldnt get a connection w/ the online site. Precision is out of 147gr black bullets and Masterblaster is out of business.

Leo, Ive already got the other one filled out. Will they still accept the old app even with the wrong dates, even though I know the corrected dates? Thanks, Kevin

I dont hard any hard feelings or anything bad to say, it just would have been nice to know ahead or at least answer an email and say something. Sorry to see them go, I started shooting his bullets about 3 months ago and have loved them. They were going to be my sole source for 2008, but I'll have to look elsewhere.

Yep, I believe they are out of business. Website is gone and no one responds to emails or phone messages.Would have been nice to at least been told or replied to.

Probably meant released at the Shot Show, if the Shot Show is Feb 2-5. He did say it would be the beginning of Feb so that would coincide with it.

Yep, you're right, I completely forgot where you're from. From now on, I'll put a disclaimer in there for you. Sorry for the confusion.

If my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle. Shannon, keep your personal family matters out of this. Plus, if my Aunt had balls, she'd be thrown out of the family. Point is, before Shannon so rudely discussed his family tree, it was very doable w/out skipping the DT's.

I shot it in 2 seconds faster than Jeff, but had a mike on the hard cover. If I hadn't had the mike, I would have had a 5.19 HF and I shot the DT. That was a lot of points to drop. Plus, I was figuring it was pretty fun to run back and forth and hose!

A very good inside source told me the 5" guns will be released end of Jan/beginning of Feb 2008. The 9mm will be released first.

What kind of 147's you shooting that your MP doesn't like? Why doesn't it like them and what to the bullets do wrong (ie keyhole, etc). I heard from a very good inside source that the 5" MP will be released somewhere around beginning of Feb 2008. I have shot 147's thru my MP9 and havent had any issues. I used Precision Delta 147's. What kind of 124's did you use that it shot OK with? (Berry's)

If you're just shooting to have fun and don't care where you finish, I'd say go for it. But if you care about where you finish or want to be competitive, you can't shoot Minor in Limited (or any Division that allows major) and win or be very competitive. I've been shooting Production for almost 3 years now and love it, but there is an extreme difference between scores if I was scored against everyone shooting major.

God I hope so Sharyn!!! Can we shoot it in the dark like the picture shows??? Haaaa!!! This is goin freakin rule!!

Whats wrong w/ you guys, you know you can't win with plastic guns!

You know you want to try it Eric. This is FREAKIN AWESOME!!!! Smitty, I told you last year this would grow, now see, you should have taken those stock tips I gave you!! Before the last Monster Match, I asked if you had Prod Div and you said you didnt and I said I wanted to shoot it anyway even if I wasnt scored and you said, "ok". Then 5 showed up, now 20. This is gonna be like Noah's Ark.

OH YEAH!!!!! Like I said, Production is the only way to shoot this. This has become a big Production hit, huh Smitty??

Flex, What ever came of this? THanks,

Yeah, I called and left a message and sent an email. Well hopefully this means they're just making more and not going out od business.

I tried the last several days to order MB bullets (either 9mm 147's or .40 180's) and keep getting a message saying they are not available. Are they just catching up on production or (hopefully not) going out of business? Anybody hear anything? Thanks,

Joker, Yep, I had the same results last year when shooting MB or Precision black/moly/polymer bullets out of any of my CZ's. I tried Precision and MB out of 2 SP01's and 85 Combat and the CZ's just did not like them. I've been testing the last few weeks with MB and some Precisions (all 147's) with TG and had no issues at all. I was thinking about trying some of my 320 I had left, but the TG has been doing pretty well and no tumbling out of my G34 or G17, both with stock barrels. My brother in law shoots the same loads out of his G34 with KKM barrel and same results with no issues at all, pretty good accuracy and no tumbling. I might try some of my 320, you notice any difference in smoke or accuracy between the TG and 320 with black/moly/polymer bullets? Thanks, Kevin

A word from a buddy of mine that is in charge of a particular area of the US in sales for S&W said they just had their meetings a few weeks ago and by 2/1/08, it should be out. It is supposed to be a 5" in 9mm.