Tom E

This is a perfect example of lack of clarity in what an "event" and a "match" is in the rule book. I'm assuming "matches" occur within "events". That needs to be better defined. Then you get into what a DQ entails. Are you just DQed in the "match" you incur the infraction in? Or are you "tarred with the same stick" in another "match" you're shooting? Are you retro-actively DQed in previous "matches"? That's where this is going... My opinion is that the punishment (DQ) applies only to the "match" in which it occurred. Do more and then you have to decide how far the punishment is applied. Same day "matches"? Previous "matches"? Previous "events"? Last yrs "event"? Where do we say "this is enough"?

Seems very wrong to DQ someone in a previously completed match for a subsequent infraction in another match.

Yes, the rulebook wording does need some editing so the terms are used consistently.

8.1 deals with this, the "completed match scores will still count". I think the glossary needs editing to better define "event" and "match". Looking at how the terms are used in context, "matches" are "contests" occuring within "events". My feelings are you should only be DQed from the "match" you commited the infraction in. If you're shooting Open and Production (as an example), two "matches" in and "event", if you commit a DQ infraction in Open you are only DQed in Open. Punishment fitting the crime. You commited no infraction in Production. It's a tough call as to which way to go. One other thing: 8.2.1.7 “Finger on the trigger during reload, unloading, loading or during remedial action. How often do you see this dealt with with a warning, "Finger!!!", rather than an automatic DQ? I know i'm guilty of just warning as an RO unless it's repeated.

Whats the advantage of the FFIII over the C-more? There really isn't any advantage. The FFIII has the dot a bit lower than an upright C-more but not one on a 90 degree mount. The C-more has a much bigger "window" many find much better along with replacable dot modules so you can run the dot size you like. The C-more also has adjustable dot brightness and is bright enough to not wash out.

They may be best for hearing "dings" but with a NRR of only 19 or 20 they're pretty useless for protecting your hearing.

Pro Ears. They don't "clip" like most others do plus you can get them in a higher NRR (up to 32) which is much better than the more common 25ish NRR that is really inadequate if you want to keep your hearing. They also have good enough amplification you can wear plugs under them when shooting indoors.

It was a fun match. I'd be back next year if it was held at Old Fort again but the courses of fire were disappointing. Almost all shot just like a plate rack with a stop plate thrown in.

Good idea if you can find 22LR ammo. I shoot PPC with a S&W 6" 14-7 and have a 6" 617. With the same grips they're almost twins except for the chambering. Would be similar with a 686. Practice with one will be like practice with the other. Gotta be careful about 617s, they're addictive...

Might have the mainspring stirrup "flipped"? You can install it the "wrong" way.

With the number of parts you can't buy from Ruger (and are available only by sending in your gun so they can "fit" the parts and return everything you've modified back to original and keep the modded parts) I can't see shooting a Ruger revolver.

When you say "Fed primer", which are you using and getting leakage? 100 or 200?

Is the insert threaded (OD) and the two holes in the insert are for a pin wrench so the insert can be screwed in?

I'm running this on my Open 22/45 Lite. With it the muzzle clearly rises less (and the dot moves less) with Mini-Mags than with Norma Tac-22. Don't have any CCI std to run a comparison with. http://maddmacsprecisiontactical.com/lite-comp-2245l013.html

Which means USPSA has a way to get match fees from clubs by USPSA posting scores instead of clubs using practiscore etc? Considering how the existing classification system works they want us to believe the "new" steel classifications will be great? Am I just getting (even more) cynical in my old age or have I just heard so many empty promises that I assume this is just more of the same...

And that's why we have a problem. He's not capable of telling you how it's supposed to be done? Isn't steel challenge about consistency? Same stages set up the same way? A great non-decision.

Clarify what? That they did in fact remove the "finger outside the trigger guard" wording? They had it highlighted as one of the changes at the time...

Looks good to me and a lot better than the paint splotch on the ground I see all too often.

1.0 General Safety 1.0.4 Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. When the RO asks "Are you ready?" Aren't you expected to be "ready to shoot"?

USPSA doesn't have rimfires with low ready starts. In SCSA and NSSF Rimfire Challenge, except for the low ready start, "trigger finger outside" still applies as usual..

His finger is in the trigger guard which is legal. On the trigger? Hard to judge. I suspect you're "off the trigger" if the gun doesn't go bang when it shouldn't. The alternate view is that they screwed up the wording. When you get an RO who doesn't like it that the rules no longer say "outside the trigger guard" and wants to nit pick, you hold up THE FINGER and explain that "THE FINGER" wasn't "on the trigger" or even inside the trigger guard...

I shot Rockford Sportsmans Clubs' (Rockford, Mi) NSSF Rimfire Challenge match and Tandemkross supplied very nice aiming point signs. I didn't hear any complaints. http://rockfordsc.zenfolio.com/p14219246/h470b9b12#h470bb4bd Was a really fun match.

Where the rule says, at the flag or sign.

Where are you getting the "45 degree" thing from? There's a designated aiming point. The "aiming point (flag or sign)... 10’ away and 2’ high", or the frequently incorrect paint splotch. For most people "45 degrees" would have the muzzle pointed at a spot on the ground about 5 feet from their toes. Something that I suppose the RO should be telling you is incorrect. A paint splotch, the equivalent to aiming at the top of a 10’ away and 2’ high flag or sign, needs to be about 16 feet out...

5.2.1 The start position is standing within the box SCSA is simple and only specifies (in 5.2.3) that: The competitor while waiting for the start signal, must be pointing/aiming their gun at the flag/sign with the finger off the trigger. NSSF is more interesting with an alternative. 7.1 Starting Position 7.1.1 Handgun Participant will start with handgun in hand(s) ready to fire with the safety disengaged, aiming at a designated object (orange cone) 10 feet down range. Alternate start position may be elbows at side with arms and gun barrel parallel with ground. 7.1.2 Rifle Participant will start with rifle in hand(s) ready to fire with the safety disengaged, aiming at a designated object (orange cone) 10 feet down range. Alternate start position may be with stock of rifle touching hip with rifle barrel parallel with ground.