XRe Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Looks pretty damn tight to me.....at 50 yds with a c-more you are aiming at a area (offhand) and then it is more on the shooter than the barrel. You're only "aiming at an area" if you don't know what you're doing. And, shooting offhand is never going to give you as clear a picture of what the gun is capable of as benching the gun (a clearer picture of what the shooter can do without assistance? Yes, of course... But that's not what we're talking about...) If the barrel isn't capable of the accuracy, the shooter can't magically make it shoot better - in order to do that, you'd have to have a crystal ball that told you exactly how far off the next shot will be vs. the previous one, and adjust from there. Regardless of what you think, a group shot by a person holding the gun (rested or not) will never be better than the mechanical accuracy of the system, and frequently will be significantly worse (especially offhand) - and, after fitting to the gun, the gun will never be more accurate than the barrel is capable of on it's own in a well built test rig (ie, where nothing moves from shot to shot). So, what they're showing here is the best possible case with the two loads in question (which is entirely reasonable, given that they're demonstrating the accuracy of the barrel itself). Once the gun is fully built with that barrel, and a human being is shooting it, it will never perform better than what you see in those images - depending on the human and the build, it might perform to that level, but it will not exceed it. My point was - while the pictures Julien posted show very solid potential accuracy for the barrel, it's not better than any other quality barrel on the market (emphasis on quality). Certainly not incredible or unbelievable. It's certainly in the range of what you'd expect and desire in a custom built gun. ETA - I don't know what load the pic on the right is above, or exactly what Lawman load they used on the left. Some well built, match grade ammo might eek some more performance out of those tests... But, who knows... Edited April 20, 2012 by XRe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) That's a pretty nice group too. According to Brandon, after correct fitting of the barrel, the same accuracy is expected on the full build. From what I know, both loads were handloads. Edited April 20, 2012 by Julien Boit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 According to Brandon, after correct fitting of the barrel, the same accuracy is expected on the full build. As it should be, with a well built gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrawandDuck Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Looks pretty damn tight to me.....at 50 yds with a c-more you are aiming at a area (offhand) and then it is more on the shooter than the barrel. You're only "aiming at an area" if you don't know what you're doing. I agree, I am totally lost in this game budddy... Edited April 21, 2012 by DrawandDuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 A little update on the picture about these groups. Both were shot with off the mill barrels, using Speer factory ammo in one case, and handloaded lead bullet with action pistol powder. Both are .40 caliber barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 love the sight tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carmine Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I find that i can more "easily" shoot a tighter group with my SVI than my STI......same ammo ect Now the guns are tuned up and yes the SVI is heavier....but the AET is just easier to get a tight grouping.....just say'n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitea87 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Is it ok to shoot lead out of a AET barrel? Edited August 20, 2014 by whitea87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Is it ok to shoot lead out of a AET barrel? Yes. I never have, but you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitea87 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Is it ok to shoot lead out of a AET barrel? Yes. I never have, but you can. Thanks. I have a 5in sight tracker on the way and a ton of 200gr. gat bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yes, only plated MAY give you a problem with the plated coming off and key-holing the round in the AET barrels.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitea87 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Yes, only plated MAY give you a problem with the plated coming off and key-holing the round in the AET barrels.. Ok. thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanzbullet Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If I uderstand this correctly, plated bullets are not ok? Would that include moly? Bare lead is good? I had heard that SVI was using a different twist than the Schuemman is it more plated friendly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If I uderstand this correctly, plated bullets are not ok? Would that include moly? Bare lead is good? I had heard that SVI was using a different twist than the Schuemman is it more plated friendly? Depends on who you ask. I've got a new barrel in my 5.4 and it still won't shoot a nice group with plated. Moly and lead are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippSpeed Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I heard because the AET barrels with gain twist are oversized... and needs to run oversized bullets like lead or moly to run tight groups.If you run plated you need to run oversized bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Are schuemann and svi barrels the same? Sent from my iPhone 6 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Same tech. Wil set up sv barrel manufacturing a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Same tech. Wil set up sv barrel manufacturing a few years ago. And they've changed their setup since that time....Maybe still similar, but not the same any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Same markings/engravings on the barrel even the serial number part Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 And in infinity's website you can see a schueman barrel Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedio Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Both of my .40 caliber SVI's are new this year and both have AET barrels. Neither have fluted chambers, which I consider a plus for brass longevity. Both shoot great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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