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I'm still liking my Stretch16, but don't consider it cheap. I had a lilja (18") made early on and it'll shoot well under 1/2" at 100 yards with good factory or my handloads. I've used some Odins, they make a light profile, and had good accuracy out of 3-4 of those now. I also have a couple faxons that have shot quite well in 16" with their gunner and pencil profiles 8 twist. I would absolutely buy another one of them, easily at or under 1 MOA with most decent ammo I've put through. Final note, got my first BA, and was pleasantly surprised. Hanson series 8 twist - hangs in there with many much more expensive tubes and don't think it would hold most back as far as accuracy for run and gun. That being said, I may have gotten a good one, but knowing others who have shot them and reading online I think they are doing some good stuff down there for the price! There you have a few options across the price spectrum, I'm sure everyone has a list but that's my $0.02. Right now maybe whatever is in stock is a good one to get though Kinda sad out there unfortunately, but with persistence you'll find what you're after

Don’t know if this is right or wrong, but one alignment with can installed with whatever method is used (qd system, thread mount, etc) then I’ll trust the mechanical repeatability as long as nothing changes on the system. In my mind it defeats the purpose of a quick detach system to go through an alignment every time you swap platforms. Fyi I’m using silencerco with both asr and direct thread options for different applications.

I went the route of a used M3k for a great price then got a carbon arms tube and did all the custom work I was interested in - was looking for an M3k freedom and glad I went the way I did. From what I understand most are doing port work on the freedom anyway, and I'd say the one piece polished design of the CA tube is pretty nice. Haven't found a cheap wal-mart load the gun won't munch yet and it points and handles well for me, which is probably more important out of the box than almost anything else. I've had very nice shotguns that ate a lot of money for fitting in addition to the price tag so I could hit something with them - if you haven't shot both yet do yourself the favor, decision may become quite clear. I'd upvote the Franchi as well - had the pleasure of using several for hunting and target from friends and family - if I didn't have a low budget for initial buy that would've probably been my #1 choice just cause they look prettier. That being said, now that I've had the stoeger for almost a year and seeing how it handles and performs, not sure I'd do it any differently next time.

I have 3 atlas s ones on different rigs and really do like them, and the attachment method. I don't beat them up so can't comment on overall durability, but they sure are nice to time and install. Profile is great - assuming your gas block fits. I did have one gas block I had to return because it was a bit fat. That being said, my theory is "weight is a bit subjective". For example, I have a 3 gun rig that is pretty light - stretch 16 barrel with JP comp, Light Handguard, JP lightweight bcg, taccom buffer setup etc. Then another that is actually a full pound heavier with a pretty burly handguard, same fluted barrel length and profile, no muzzle device. Everyone who shoots them comments on how light the "heavy" on is - It's always surprising because I spent so much making one light and it's not that gets the comments - but I think it is weight out front. In 3 gun I don't know you need light overall as much as super fast handling, which is at the end of the day balance. I won't, but I assume if I took the JP off the stretch 16 it would noticeably change the ergos and make that rig feel light. All that to say, I echo the barrel nut weight being fine to play with if it makes you feel better or you are really looking for a certain threshold, but if you're looking to invest you could hunt down a titanium comp and even gas block and save just a couple ounces at the point where it matters the absolute most for quick transitions. Just my $.02

Good info RGA, thanks!

It is a rifle, however I have several other rifle powder funnels for the 550 and best I can tell they go into the case not around the outside.

Presumably then if I have a dedicated expander in station 1 this will work, as the brass would’ve already gone through a full sizing and trimming before the final loading pass so Thai station isn’t currently used in my bottleneck loading? This 0.5mm undersized funnel won’t flare the case, but since this would be done in step 1 all I need to to do is have the funnel deposit powder into the case without spillage.

I am new to dillon loading, have a 550 setup. Toying with spinning up some 6.5 creedmoor loads - I know the shell plate/locator buttons will be the same as components I already have, but would it be functional to use a 243/6mm rem powder funnel rather than a dedicated 6.5 funnel? Not 100% sure how this setup indexes and dispenses, let me know if you think or know that this will/won’t work - and why so I can lean a bit on the system. Thanks!

Stockade is good if you don’t mind waiting for a custom, Kevin is top notch with some good options, will Inlet for their aics compatible bottom metal. HS or a bell and Carlson comes stock with inletting for bottom metal take aics mags. manners makes some savage inlets with bottom metal that takes aics style too. I have all the above, all with pros and cons. Happy to chat more if you want more info, fell free to pm me.

Welcome, and thanks for starting GlockTalk. I know I, and many others on here, have probably been on that site and benefited from the info it provides.

No doubt good stuff - the idea of starting trigger pull early was a thing I started naturally doing, was a good affirmation first time I saw these tips. And Langdon is also the place to go for your Beretta double action needs!

HAHAHA!! Well I always enjoy learning from your expertise, please expand on this

Subscribed to this, have a beretta px4 that I like, and want to like more.

Think Steve is right on! Practical/speed related port work has to be tops after tube capacity, triggers are subjective but a good one usually doesn't hurt (unless you're used to jerking 8 pounders and fire early with a reasonable one :)). I've shot Benellis with and without, I can't tell you I notice a huge difference in the moment, maybe at the end of the day? You could certainly take a step in the right direction with a limbsaver pre-fit pad and kick-eze cheek pad for $50 or so total, which I've done on one of my old non-comfort tech benelli stocks and a stoeger, never looked back or felt like I needed more. Of course perceived recoil, how it's managed, and how a gun fits are all somehwhat individualistic so try to find one to shoot with the comfortech next to yours and see if it allows faster follow ups or anything beneficial for you!