Rufus The Bum Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Well I bought 5000 once fired .40 brass cases, they came in and I began to reload. I noticed they were all the same headstamp and had a red primer sealer, not a problem whatsoever, but what I noticed was that EVERY case was fired through a Glock. Out of 500 I loaded, only 35 passed my case gage. I thought I had screwed something up, so out of curiosity, I loaded about 50 using non-Glock fired brass and every single case passed the gage. I used to think the guys who swore by never using Glock brass were just being silly until I found out for myself. BIG lesson to be learned here. .40 brass is so cheap for a reason. Mainly because most of it is fired through Glocks. Does anyone know where I can buy Non-Glock fired brass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Rufus, I don't understand your concerns. I usually reload glock-fired brass for my SVI Competition in .40SW, and never had any problem with them. Here is my set-up: Lee Pro-1000 press, Lee .40SW 4-set dies (including FCD), Local-made 180grs FP lead and plated bullets, 4.6/4.9 grs of VV N320, 1.170" OAL. The lead reloads won't usually pass the gauge test (they wont go all the way, they stop about 0.05" from the bottom) but will all drop freely in my barrel chamber, while the plated reloads will perfectly fit the gauge. I have set the resizing and FCD dies as close as possible to the shell plate (I can slide a sheet of paper between die and plate), but not to touch it (the carbide ring inside the dies could break upon repeatedly hitting the plate). I can report, in about 32k rounds shot, maybe 4 or 5 failures fo feed, mostly due to experimentation while limp-wristing the gun, or while shooting prone, with gun butt resting on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hey Rufus, Buy yourself a Glock too and you will have no more problems feeding Glock-fired brass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus The Bum Posted December 12, 2003 Author Share Posted December 12, 2003 I'm using: Dillon 550 Hornady Size/decap die Lee FCD Loaded to 1.190 I usta to get nearly 100 percent pass on the case gage when I was loading on a single stage, with this progressive though it's not the same story. My FCD and size die are right on the shellplate, almost touching. I haven't had any failure-to-feeds to speak of using this 550, but for a major match, I might think about resizing on a single stage, then run the brass through my 550. I don't know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Rufus, You might want to try adding the Lee undersized dies to your setup. Also, don't be afraid of having the Sizing die and the FCD die kiss the shell plate. Also, could your sizing case guage be a little "overzealous". I load Glock brass all the time to shoot in my STI and 99% pass the chamber check guage. -- Bucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Well, first of all, if your reloads fail the gauge test, but pass the chamber one, I wouldn't be worried, the reloads will be all suitable for your gun. Second, did you use the same dies, brass, bullets etc. when loading with the single stage press? Maybe the problem is the toolhead? I know that with my Lee, the toolhead is not very tight with the press frame, it can move about .5mm in height, thus when I crank the lever up, the toolhead rises a bit and this might lead to slightly different resizing depth, OALs, crimp and so on. Again, if your 550 reloads with glock-fired brass fail the gauge test, but you cannot report any FTF, I wouldn't be concerned about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 I used to have the same problem, I fixed it simply : Took a spare decapping/resizing Lee tool with the carbide ring and trimmed it a little until the bevel was the shortest possible. By doing so, the case is re-calibrated the lowest possible. The case bulge dissapeared and now, unless for matches, i don't have to worry anymore about brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Get an EGW sizing die and quitcherbitchin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Thankfully my father loves me to death (for whatever reason) and resized all my .40 brass on his Rock Chucker, hitting it twice with a 180 degree rotation between (yes he's that meticulous....and insane). However, no longer. Case-Pro. Resize 1000 pieces in under an hour...no problem. It's not that expensive, when you consider, time and quality of brass that you get out of it. With pops, I got 100% of brass used. With the Case-Pro, somewhere around 95-98%. Can't complain. Problem solved. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Get a EGW die, just as Erik indicated. I bought one several months ago, wishing that I would of done so earlier. Running all your loads through case gauge becomes annoying after time. Dont need case lube either. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 EGW die is the poor mans case-pro and I think it works just as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3quartertime Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Get an EGW sizing die and quitcherbitchin. Funny,,, double medicated Funnier,,, Recognizing the 'Munch' painting from the avatar last night on a girls wall. Priceless,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jspruance Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 I am having trouble locating the Lee "U" dies, I need both 9mm and 40 S&W. I looked on the Lee web site and couldn't find any info on the "U" die. I saw EGW's ad and dropped them a note asking if I could purchase online but got no response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 EGW's dies are lightly-machined Lee dies that resize further down. It looks like they're not set up for online ordering, but do business via phone, fax, or snail mail. www.egw-guns.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 I'm surprised you're having trouble with the Hornaday die. I've used that for 40 and had no problems gettin most of the bulge out. I have no clue about whether they'd pass a case gauge, but they all fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 I'm using a Hornaday sizer in my 650 also and it sizes all brass 100%. Never a jam from Glock brass. Don't use the Dillon sizer and have the die touch the plate. on mine it is the stop for the upstroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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