Revopop Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 So I built a 3 gun rifle on a Cav Arms lower, and I don't like how it balances. I've got a regular Stag lower on the way that I'll use with the current upper, but now I've got a Cav lower that needs an upper. I'm thinking I'll get a lightweight upper and use it as a plinker/house gun/hoser match rifle. I don't want to spend a lot as precision won't really be required, and this'll just be a fun gun. Perusing Shotgun News, I see Model 1 and M&A have cheap lightweight uppers available. Both can also be had without the BCG, which is a plus for me, I'll save a little money now and it'll give me an excuse to get a JP LMOS for the other one. In a bit of searching, it seems both of them have had some QC issues but they don't seem to be recent, and most of the problems were with their bolts which I won't be using. Anybody have any first hand feedback on either of these two manufacturers? Is there somewhere else I should be looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeweyH Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I have had 2 Model 1 uppers a 20" and a light weight 16" and both have been fault free. I still have the light weight upper. I had it on a Cav Arms lower at one time, but I never fired it. But it sure was a light weight package. About a month or so ago I checked with Model 1 on how long of a wait to get an uppper and they said it would be 26-28 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmcphersn Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Check PK Firearms. They have several lightweight uppers with BCG's in stock, including a Rock River mid-length for $452. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 No BCG or Charging Handle but..dang. You should buy one of these and let us know how it holds up. Jim http://www.dsarms.com/Lowers--Uppers/products/59/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) I not familiar with these light weight uppers and lowers. I handled a rifle at a match that had a Cav Arms Lower and I liked it. What are the positive and negatives of these components? I would imagine that they wear out eventually? Does the lack if weight translate to more felt recoil? Edited November 8, 2009 by jtischauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I have received some customer service complaints about Model One Sales but YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 No BCG or Charging Handle but..dang. You should buy one of these and let us know how it holds up. Jim http://www.dsarms.com/Lowers--Uppers/products/59/ Holy crap! I'm mighty tempted. I may just call them on Monday and see if they've actually got them in stock at that price. If I get one, I'll be sure to post feedback to the collective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 That is the same DSA that sponsors Kelly Neal, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) I recently put a Bushmaster Superlight 16" flattop upper on a Cavarms lower. I ordered the upper with a free float tube. Topped it with a Trijicon reflex and buis. Makes for a pretty sweet, light, easy handling rifle! So far, it's been reliable and accurate. Bushmaster had about 200 of the Superlight barrels in stock, so I had the order in about a week! Edited for typos! Edited November 8, 2009 by jobob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 That is the same DSA that sponsors Kelly Neal, right? Well, I believe so. Kelly wears the DSA TechWare USA polo's so....I'm thinking yes. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 That definitely makes me more likely to buy one. If I pull the trigger on one of these, I'll be sure to post a range report for you guys. That's certainly the cheapest upper I've ever seen for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Well I never got around to buying another upper, and now that my tax refund has arrived I'm looking again. I figured I might as well revive my old thread and see if anybody had any new suggestions. I'm still thinking I'll probably get the DSA upper listed above as it's still the cheapest around and this'll just be a plinker. I've also thought about getting a .22 conversion for it, that way I'd have a dedicated .22 upper that o could turn into 5.56 if I wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 DSA Inc is still running a decent price on uppers. http://www.dsarms.com/DSA-ZM4-Forged-7075T6-A3-AR15-Upper-Receiver---DSZM4CBU/productinfo/DSZM4CBU/ I'm waiting on someone to do a review on these. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I have a great 16" middy, lightweight barreled upper from CMMG - love it. I just looked at their site - and I don't think they make them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I am a big fan of Del-Ton for the price, after seeing the quality in their complete AR's. You can get an entire M4 kit from them for just under $500, the upper is less. Here's the link for the kit: http://www.del-ton.com/Rifle_Kit_p/rkt104.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I am a big fan of Del-Ton for the price, after seeing the quality in their complete AR's. You can get an entire M4 kit from them for just under $500, the upper is less. Here's the link for the kit: http://www.del-ton.com/Rifle_Kit_p/rkt104.htm They indicate a 1 - 2 week delivery time. That has sure improved. If I was in the market for one, now is the time to get it. My last kit ordered from J&T was made before things got real tight and I still had a 6 month wait. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Just so you know, it's really no big deal to get a barrel turned down. My most recent upper is a 14.5" midlength with the barrel turned down under the handguards and forward of the front sight. It's super light weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an1913t Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I haven't purchased the DSA upper, but have had good luck with other parts purchased there. If you are in a hurry, you should call though and confirm that they have what you want in stock or how soon they are going to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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