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I'm planning to move up there this Spring. Are there any registration requirements for my handguns? I am correct in saying there is not a 10-rd limitation like Massachusetts? Funny that I wasn't interested in guns at all when I left to join the military, now coming back I'm going to have quite a few pistols coming with me!

Kinda disappointing there aren't any USPSA clubs in CT though...is USPSA just not popular up there like down here in the south?

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I'm planning to move up there this Spring. Are there any registration requirements for my handguns? I am correct in saying there is not a 10-rd limitation like Massachusetts? Funny that I wasn't interested in guns at all when I left to join the military, now coming back I'm going to have quite a few pistols coming with me!

Kinda disappointing there aren't any USPSA clubs in CT though...is USPSA just not popular up there like down here in the south?

Firearm laws are still liberal in CT.

Permit required for carry.

No mag issues for now, no problem with obtaining reloading components.

While there is no current USPSA club, we're a small state and you can get to a club in MA, RI, NY or NJ (sorry Jim) about in max of two hours or less.

You can shoot just about every Sunday April through Nov. There are a few matches inside in the winter.

There are plenty of IDPA matches within reach also.

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We get a large group of CT shooters over a Dutchess County Pistol Club (DCPA) for IPSC matches....4th Sunday of the month (6 stages, 125-135 rnds min.)

I am the IPSC match director for 2009.....PM me for more details. First 2009 Match is in March.

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It's great the CT hasn't been hit by the mag bug yet. For the USPSA matches & clubs, do you have any GPS coordinates? I was trying to figure out your locations through mapquest, but the pages don't have addresses, only directions.

Here in NM, all of my matches are at least 2-3 hours drive so it looks like I'll be saving time and money in the Northeast because of the small states.

I'll be landing in CT by late-April so I'll probably stop by one of ya'll matches then.

Just to confirm for the state's (I was browsing through the laws on the NRA website) laws in MA, NY, NJ, RI...

- It's all right to travel to these areas for competition as long as the pistol is in a locked container in a locked trunk from point A to B.

- Shooting my own reloaded ammunition is fine

- For NJ - magazines cannot exceed 15 rounds

- For MA & NY - magazines cannot exceed 10 rounds

- For CT & RI - no mag restrictions

It looks like I'll be playing in Production/Limited-10/SingleStack! :)

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I'm allergic to inaccurate information, and I feel a rash coming on, so here's the correct info on MA and NY:

It's all right to travel to these areas for competition as long as the pistol is in a locked container in a locked trunk from point A to B.

To do so in MA, you need a permit issued by any state, district or territory that does not issue to drug users or felons (Mass General Law Chapter 140 Section 131F) or be police with carry authority in another state (LEOSA rendering the later option redundant).

To do so in NY, the match needs to be NRA recognized and you have a +/- 48hour window (NY penal code 265.20-13a). The 2009 Area 7 Championship has received formal recognition from the NRA (and I have the paperwork to prove it).

For MA & NY - magazines cannot exceed 10 rounds

Only partially true. Attend any match in NY or MA and you will see plenty of non-police using perfectly legal high cap magazines. You'll also see them in gun shops (although new guns come with 10 rounders, and high cap mags sell at a premium - for example, a MA shop known for good prices has pre-ban AR15 30 rounders for $39.95)

Both states ban only mags made on or after the original federal AWB date of Sept 14, 1994 (consider it an "anti-sunset" law). MA requires an LTC (License to Carry) Class A or B for > 10 round mags if you are not covered by the competition exemption, but you need one of those for a handgun anyhow.

NY excludes mags made before the Sept 1994 date from the definition of high capacity feeding device (NY penal code 265.00-23).

MA law explicitly limits the ban to feeding devices made after Sept 13, 1994 (Mass General Law chapter 140 section 131M). I am not aware of any prosecutions for this offense, however, it's not uncommon for someone without a license to be charged with unlicensed possession of a high capacity feeding device as one of many charges (as in "assault, possession of ammo without a license, possession of a high cap mag without a license, and fishing without a license. ")

I'll be landing in CT by late-April so I'll probably stop by one of ya'll matches then.

You're in luck - CT is pretty dang close to a "shall issue" state, and they cannot apply a standard of "special need required" to get a carry permit. If you moved to MA, you would need to get the color coded list of towns (Green=good, Red=Bad, Black=Terrible) and pick one where the chief of police didn't have it in for gun owners.

ps: CT has an AW ban covering certain rifles by brand and model, so I can bring my JP but not my Colt HBAR.

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To do so in MA, you need a permit issued by any state, district or territory...

This means an out of state carry permit right? I currently have a NM one, and will probably get a CT one too once I get there.

To do so in NY, the match needs to be NRA recognized and you have a +/- 48hour window (NY penal code 265.20-13a).

So technically an out-of-state resident is not allowed to shoot in a NY competition if it is not recognized by the NRA or followed by NY penal code 265.20-12.

You'll also see them in gun shops...

Since I doubt any of my 15+ mags are legal, as long as I purchase legal prebans I'm perfectly fine to use them (well as long as I have the LTC too of course.

(Green=good, Red=Bad, Black=Terrible) and pick one where the chief of police didn't have it in for gun owners.

Holy cow, there are a lot of laws to read and understand, but I think as long as I commit to the workarounds, I can participate in the other divisions.

Thanks for the info!

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It's great the CT hasn't been hit by the mag bug yet. For the USPSA matches & clubs, do you have any GPS coordinates? I was trying to figure out your locations through mapquest, but the pages don't have addresses, only directions.

harvard

42-30-54

71-31-36

Manville

41-57-44

71-28-38

New Bedford

41-41-28

71-01-52

Bass River

41-43-03

70-13-07

Westfield

42-08-41

72-46-12

Monson

42-04-30

72-21-06

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To do so in NY, the match needs to be NRA recognized and you have a +/- 48hour window (NY penal code 265.20-13a).

So technically an out-of-state resident is not allowed to shoot in a NY competition if it is not recognized by the NRA or followed by NY penal code 265.20-12.

So does that mean Duchess County matches are a no go for out of staters?

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This means an out of state carry permit right? I currently have a NM one, and will probably get a CT one too once I get there.

I certainly assume so. (this is in reference to the MA law)

So technically an out-of-state resident is not allowed to shoot in a NY competition if it is not recognized by the NRA or followed by NY penal code 265.20-12.

That's 265.20-13a. The law also recognizes IMHSA matches. I suppose a credible argument could be made that matches held at an NRA affiliated club count, however, there is no need to cross that bridge.

The NRA will grant "Special tournament" status to a match that does not fit nicely into any of the existing NRA categories. In fact, if a club sends them their annual schedule, they will grant recognition to an entire season's match on a single form. The best part about this is that it is FREE service. The reference to match fees on the NRA web site pertains to official matches that are part of the NRA program, not "special tournaments". The match sends the form available at http://www.nrahq.org/compete/tourn-forms/spec-tourn-app.pdf in, and the NRA competitions division returns it with a rubber stamp indicating it's been approved.

The requirements listed on the NRA form are simple:

  1. Complete and return this application in duplicate with two copies of the program.
  2. Conduct the tournament according to safe Tournament Regulations and Rules.
  3. Provide adequate operating personnel to conduct the tournament efficiently.
  4. In the event that the tournament is cancelled, immediately notify the NRA.

I have never had a problem getting an Area 7 Championship approved. I always include a cover letter stating the match will be run by USPSA rules that require a cold range and shooting only under the direct supervision of an RO instead of a "match program". You might want to request that the president of the NY club you wish to shoot at apply for such recognition, and also provide you with a formal match invitation letter to carry with the gun.

Since the Area 7 is a major match, I always budget for a thank-you donation to the NRA competitions division that we send in after the event (generally about $200). They show class by not charging for the service, so the match shows some class in return.

Holy cow, there are a lot of laws to read and understand, but I think as long as I commit to the workarounds, I can participate in the other divisions.

When I teach the LTC (License to Carry) course in MA, I plan on a minimum of 1 hour to cover the law portion; 2 if it's a big group with questions. After all, I need to cover the storage law, the lab testing regulations, the AG's super duper secret double probation regulations on what dealers may sell (No new Glocks for you; no new STIs but SVIs are OK, etc.), the difference between the Green, White, Blue, Yellow and Pink license as well as the sub-types thereof. Of course, the upside is that my MA carry permit has fewer restrictions on where I can carry than residents in TX, AZ, FL or a host of other states are subject to.

As a new CT resident, you may find it interesting to know that while there is no reciprocity (other than the very limited competition issue) granted by any of the NE states, you can mail order carry permits from MA, NH and MA. RI is a bit tougher (you need some sort of special need), but it can be done, and you have to pick it up in person. VT is a no permit required to carry state.

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Great posts Rob - Thanks.

This is why we had the S&W Indoor IDPA Nationals match sanctioned by the NRA, and why WPS does the same for its ICORE matches. It is a simple, painless process as Rob describes.

On topic,

The 5 - 6 pistol pit HGC facilities are available to the motivated individual who'd like to lead a USPSA program at the club. We've got active IDPA, ICORE (this year) and CAS programs. The BoG better understands (and has realized the profits from) Action Shooting programs now than than they did a few years ago when we started. We are just one motivated individual away from a viable USPSA program.

Craig

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I assume this is the Hartford Gun Club in CT Lots of green grass ranges - I hope something gets going there.

This is why we had the S&W Indoor IDPA Nationals match sanctioned by the NRA, and why WPS does the same for its ICORE matches. It is a simple, painless process as Rob describes.

While there is no harm in doing so, if the IDPA Indoor Nationals was held at S&W in MA, there was no need. Ditto for WPS (Westfield, MA). NY law makes specific reference to "approved by or under the auspices of the NRA or IMHSA". There is no such reference in MA law, so NRA sanctioning doesn't change the legal status of your competitors. But, the price is right and the effort low, so it's a harmless exercise.

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