98sr20ve Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Well, this was not a good day. I know what I did and I wont let it happen again. Basically, I got DQ'd for breaking the 180. Apparently, I turned all the way around with my pistol. I honestly don't remember it that way but the looks on the SO face was pure shock. Honestly, I should never have shown up today. I had a cold, I felt cloudy but psyched myself into not feeling sick so that I could shoot. It was stupid. It's weird how you don't remember what you do sometimes. I learned a lesson today. Don't think of it as a excuse. It's not. I screwed up and just hope it won't effect things in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 There are two kinds of shooters..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98sr20ve Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 There are two kinds of shooters..... What does that mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmap Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) It means there 2 kinds of shooters......those that have DQ'd and those that will. Edited January 13, 2008 by jasmap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 It means there 2 kinds of shooters......those that have DQ'd and those that will. Exactly. Don't beat yourself up over it, learn and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Well, this was not a good day. I know what I did and I wont let it happen again. Basically, I got DQ'd for breaking the 180. Apparently, I turned all the way around with my pistol. I honestly don't remember it that way but the looks on the SO face was pure shock. Honestly, I should never have shown up today. I had a cold, I felt cloudy but psyched myself into not feeling sick so that I could shoot. It was stupid. It's weird how you don't remember what you do sometimes. I learned a lesson today. Don't think of it as a excuse. It's not. I screwed up and just hope it won't effect things in the future. Who was the SO at the Pueblo IDPA match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98sr20ve Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 Well, this was not a good day. I know what I did and I wont let it happen again. Basically, I got DQ'd for breaking the 180. Apparently, I turned all the way around with my pistol. I honestly don't remember it that way but the looks on the SO face was pure shock. Honestly, I should never have shown up today. I had a cold, I felt cloudy but psyched myself into not feeling sick so that I could shoot. It was stupid. It's weird how you don't remember what you do sometimes. I learned a lesson today. Don't think of it as a excuse. It's not. I screwed up and just hope it won't effect things in the future. Who was the SO at the Pueblo IDPA match? "Houser?" I think. Nice guy. He told me how to do it different in the future. I was in shock to be honest. I honestly don't remember it like he said but I don't doubt for a minute I did it. I honestly thought I had the gun point up range to my side. I now know even that it not the right way to do it. It was in a hallway kinda setup and I should have just backed up like I have done in the past. I just was not thinking clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Thought it might have been him, Hoser, Otherwise known as Tom Freeman here on BE. He'll be alright. Probably wasn't the first time for him. Yep, everyone sooner or later gets a trip to DQ. Learn from it and go on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Ok here's my story. A few weeks ago 2 buddies of mine who shall remained anonymous (IMA45DV8/ForenicsDoc) and I went to a small monthly match on a cold day in December. Second stage involved carrying a Christmas present to a box under the tree and putting the box under the tree. The size of the box made it mandatory to use both hands to carry. One of my anonymous buddies (IMA45DV8) took off and proceded to bounce his gun off his leg onto the ground. Mmmm, I think, might have a good chance for some extreme ribbing directed towards our new squad Mom. Also might be able to win this match. Final stage start position required placing butt against barrier and reach back and touch sides of barrier. When our squad Mom hit the buzzer I yanked my strong hand forward and bumped the magwell. You guessed it, the gun in slow motion did a 1 and 1/2 gainer with a half twist straight to the dirt. No moral to this story, just a couple of DQ's, and a hell of lot of laughs on the ride home!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann the Horrible Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I shot so badly on Saturday it would have been kinder to DQ me. It was about 29% worse than the shoot before that. Everyone I know that have shot for more than a year got DQ`ed during that time. (some more) Still feels quite shitty doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryP Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Well, this was not a good day. I know what I did and I wont let it happen again. Basically, I got DQ'd for breaking the 180. Apparently, I turned all the way around with my pistol. I honestly don't remember it that way but the looks on the SO face was pure shock. Honestly, I should never have shown up today. I had a cold, I felt cloudy but psyched myself into not feeling sick so that I could shoot. It was stupid. It's weird how you don't remember what you do sometimes. I learned a lesson today. Don't think of it as a excuse. It's not. I screwed up and just hope it won't effect things in the future. It happened! You know what happened! You learned from it! Call it to experience... Thanks for sharing LarryP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBird Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 After shooting "action type" matches for almost 20 years -- it happened to me last year at a SASS {Cowboy Action} shoot. Stage had you shooting the handgun till empty and reholstering before picking up your rifle and engageing more targets. I shoved my revolver in my holster and a part of my shirt with it. When I extended my arms to pick up my rifle, I felt something hit my foot. Looked down and there was my revolver on the ground. As has been said --- there are two kinds of shooters , those that have had a DO and those that will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crsmn Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Learn from it, shake it off, and get back out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachen27 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Actually I think it says alot about you that you are upset about it, admit your fault, and vow to learn from it. We've had a couple of shooters get DQ'd at my local club and it turned into a squabble over club rules. The DQ'd shooter was fine with it, but the shooter behind him, who overheard everything, had a fit over it. He decided the club rules were out dated and couldn't possibly be followed if "proper" techniques were used. Getting DQ'd isn't a huge deal, but not taking it like an adult is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrClean Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 After over 10 years of not shooting competition I got started back, thanks to a new friend of mine. Shot a couple friendly matches, constantly thinking "Don't DQ... Don't DQ..... Finger out of trigger guard..... 180..... etc etc". All was well..... went to another match and walked over for the "first time shooter safety briefing" and was standing there. The RO starting going through the drill and looked over at me and said "This is a perfect example". I could feel my face turning red immediately. I knew EXACTLY what he saw. Had my 1911 in the holster... empty.... no mag.... BUT... the hammer was back! He had me move to the safe station there and go through the drill, lastly dropping the hammer and holstering. Then jokingly said "I had him do that just to show you how easy it is to forget something..... etc etc". Felt like I had a sign on me the rest of the day "GOOBERHEAD". But at the same time, was glad to know he and others are always watching to help keep everyone safe. That said, I don't hesitate VERY NICELY to point out something or go get a RO if I see something. No matter how 'minor' you may think it is. The rules are their for US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann the Horrible Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Ya, heard about a "nice" gentleman pulling back a hammer on a competitors gun during Nationals. The competitor dropped his cap over his gun untill he could escape the the nearest Safety area. Since then quite a few competitors keep their hands over their hammers for some reason. That could have lead to a DQ and a spoiled friendship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 FYI Per the 2008 USPSA Rules 5.2.2 Competitors carrying their handgun in a holster must have an empty magazine well, and the hammer or striker must be de-cocked. Anyone found in violation of this rule will be immediately escorted by a Range Officer to a suitable range or safety area where appropriate corrective action shall be made. Not a DQable offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2kcrewcab Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Been there....done that... My first (and hopefully only) DQ was last year at the AR State IDPA Match. I was not feeling up to par, and obviously wasn't thinking clearly either. I too turned toward the crowd, much to the dismay of myself and everyone around me. One of my good friends was SO'ing and hated to DQ me, but I fully understood what happened and that it had to end that way. My biggest concern is whether I actually pointed the gun at anyone, and EVERYONE told me that I did NOT. I actually went into the "sul" position with the pistol tucked into my body pointed right at the ground, finger off the trigger. Although it didn't change the fact that I messed up, it was nice to know that at least I was semi-conscious of where I was pointing the gun barrel. Since then, I have not shot a match where my DQ doesn't cross my mind - and that's not necessarily a bad thing - it makes me concentrate more on safety. As has been stated in this chain multiple times, everyone told me "there are 2 kinds of shooters...." Best thing to do is be thankful no one was hurt, learn from it, and rock on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 After over 10 years of not shooting competition I got started back, thanks to a new friend of mine. Shot a couple friendly matches, constantly thinking "Don't DQ... Don't DQ..... Finger out of trigger guard..... 180..... etc etc". All was well..... went to another match and walked over for the "first time shooter safety briefing" and was standing there. The RO starting going through the drill and looked over at me and said "This is a perfect example". I could feel my face turning red immediately. I knew EXACTLY what he saw. Had my 1911 in the holster... empty.... no mag.... BUT... the hammer was back! He had me move to the safe station there and go through the drill, lastly dropping the hammer and holstering. Then jokingly said "I had him do that just to show you how easy it is to forget something..... etc etc". Felt like I had a sign on me the rest of the day "GOOBERHEAD". But at the same time, was glad to know he and others are always watching to help keep everyone safe. That said, I don't hesitate VERY NICELY to point out something or go get a RO if I see something. No matter how 'minor' you may think it is. The rules are their for US. I did the hammer back thing once myself... I had been to the safe area dry firing. Someone came up and said something to me and we started talking. I walked away from the safe area and a fellow club member caught it. It was, of course, empty and the safety was applied, but a red faced moment for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 FYIPer the 2008 USPSA Rules 5.2.2 Competitors carrying their handgun in a holster must have an empty magazine well, and the hammer or striker must be de-cocked. Anyone found in violation of this rule will be immediately escorted by a Range Officer to a suitable range or safety area where appropriate corrective action shall be made. Not a DQable offense. Alan is right... Fun is fun, but don't mess with my gun. That's a good way to meet mister nasty. I'm a pretty easy going guy in person, but stuff like that, friend or no would piss me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubletap Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Unfortunately there are actually 3 types. Those who have, those who will, and those who have multiple times. It's number 3 that bothers me. I managed after 15 years to have my 1st DQ at the L10 Nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renron Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 First Post here. I'm very happy to hear that safety faux-pas are taken seriously to heart. I hope to not be DQed on my first shoot in 2 weeks. Thanks for letting me join the website and USPSA. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Flicking somebody else's hammer back used to be a fairly common 'friend dicking with you at a match' routine.. luckily that fad seems to have died out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann the Horrible Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I wish it would die out in SA. Happened again on Saturday and the shooter just walked to the Safety area took the gun out and pulled the trigger- it went click but everyone that saw it grabbed for hearing protection. As the man said :"It is all fun and games until someone gets hurt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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