Ron Ankeny Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Dani asked me to post a couple of photographs of a Glock. He thought Flexmoney and some of the other Glock fans might like to see them. I wonder what the story is behind the pics??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 At first glance I thought Ka-boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3quartertime Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 With the slide being back I wonder if it could be ejector fire? I see so many shooters ( .45's mostly ) that show clear by reaching over the slide then having the round get stuck on the ejector. I alwas explain why I think it is a bad/dangerous idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Many thanks Ron for posting the photos, I hope Flex enoy them Really there is no much story behind them, the first one is an overload round, the second we don't know what happened, luckly no one was injured (in both cases, yes sir, they are 2 different pistols!!) It seems that Gaston's tupperware can have some problems also Thanks again Ron. (Edited by Dani at 10:25 am on Mar. 3, 2003) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Ouch, glad no one was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter K Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Oh, is this the new glock-wide-body-model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 We had a Glock 'explosion' during league a week ago... the frame split right in two downward. Shooter not injured but hands were sore for couple of days. I did a double-take on this photo as a result.... Yeh, it DID rather look for a moment like a new Glock feature or something. Not that I'd want it on MY glock.......!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Flex, there is a problem with your pic, i can't see it. Yes, I have also pictures of an STI broken, another Glock with the chamber blown out, and a revolver barrell with 4 bullets inside (the guy didn't notice that the bullets were'nt going out and keep shooting!!!!) The funny thing is that i don't have seen any Tanfo pic yet and don't want to !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Here's the full story on Flex's custom gun blowout: Seems like some of the finest, custom built guns have problems also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted March 4, 2003 Author Share Posted March 4, 2003 Oh my! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 I know what happened to that SV... he was using brass fired through a Glock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 That is the ugliest picture I've seen!! Such a beautiful gun...... Ahhhhhh!!!! I get the same feeling if I think of Faith Hill getting ripped by a Mike Tyson uppercut! I need to puke now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 My God!!! The Bomars survived!!!!! Send those puppies to Erik Warren quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 That pic of the SV makes me want to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 I think GMIprod sent me that pic. He has emailed me quite a few cool pictures in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 I thought I recognised that SV Flex! Its an example of what happens when you take the finest materials, designers, machining and hand finishing, and give the end product to a bloody Kiwi! P.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 I was hoping flex or somebody would post that SVI Worst part is that is in fact the SECOND expensive gun that pair of "gentlemen" have put paid to. No Glock brass involved at all. Just a steady diet of 200+ PF for about two years. The barrel finally let go. One of those fellas also had his car go bang one day but that's a better story and to be told in person. Flex see if you can dig up the photo of the Ruger 2245 that I sent to you. I don't have the brains to set up the photo's to be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 ...come'on, that's an overcharge...admit it I don't expect any quality gun to KB after a steady diet of 200+ PF. At least I hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 GM, TDeans right, it must be bad ammo, didn't they load together? Can't wait to see what they do to the new 'Executive' P.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 Yes it was bad ammo, and lots of it. I checked some of their loads and they WERE so far over spec it's not funny. I fired some of their 180gr loads in a 40cal rifle. Now I usually get 175-180pf ammo to do 200pf in the extra length of barrel. This stuff came out of the carbine at 265pf, (thats 1475fps in the 15" barrel). If I work backwards that should adjust to about 238pf (1322fps)in the pistol. And if they work to that level and then get one go just a little higher, who knows what was going to happen. Given that they load at less than 1.250" and use fast burning powder I estimate the pressure to be higher than the 10mm max of 35,000 PSI. The only load in 10mm that gets close to that velocity is with medium to slow burning powder. Add to that, 40 brass is thinner in the web than 10mm (to allow for the bullet) and given the constant extreme pressure, I would say the barrel / cases could not handle it anymore. As far as I know they use new brass, they don't buy once fired. They use a Dillon 650 without a powder check. I have seen cases let go and cause nothing like this kind of extreme barrel failure, maybe as Tdean says a single way overload. We could not find any evidence of a lodged bullet, which combined with a hot load could cause this. The thing that amazes me is the extreme damage to the slide. Craked right to the rear. One bad load will blow the chamber and crack the slide at the front. The frame was also missing some parts of the frame rails. The grip and trigger assembly were ok. By the time I got the pistol to inspect and get our gunsmith look at, no brass residue could be found and the slide stop had been damaged by agressive removal. Most of the important evidence for full analysis had been "cleaned". So we will never know the full story. I feel sorry for anything those two shoot. I and others have given them the best advise we know on reloading and the problems continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 GM, I saw one of the 2 on the airpistol range today, please, please, do not sell them a precharged Pneumatic! P.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 I think the best advice for those folks is that they stop reloading. Eventually they will hurt, maybe kill, themselves or someone else. On the other hand...it is nice to know that the hardware CAN take that kind of abuse and that exceeding the pressure specs by a couple percent isn't perhaps going to call for total catastrophe. I think I will still choose to err on the side of wimpy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBF Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 GM and PD, Kevlar might be a wise investment if you have to share a range with those guys.... Travis F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaman Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 might i add good life insurance, or at least a good surgeon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 One of the two has just asked me to quote on a pair of supressed Ruger 22/45 pistols. Thank god they can't reload for that!!!!!! I have to admit I have not shot seriously on the same range as those two for about two years as I prefer to have a 8ft high 8" thick concrete wall between them and me. But I have a good vest handy in the workshop if I need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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