Rosshooting Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 I dry practicing a lot! I am shooting production and reach a conclusion that the comfortable and reliable point of speed draw is not under 1.15. I am not pleased with that of course so please share me some key points to speed up it! My stance and technique are correct, I am relaxed, my shoulders are square and not moving, the same with my torso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 I am shooting production and reach a conclusion that the comfortable and reliable point of speed draw is not under 1.15. At what distance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosshooting Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 I am shooting production and reach a conclusion that the comfortable and reliable point of speed draw is not under 1.15. At what distance? 10 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 If you're actually hitting, that's a world class time. World IPSC Champion Eric Grauffel, when asked what his time was for a draw and fire at 10 yards, replied, "1.10 seconds for an A-zone hit, every time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 (edited) I dry practicing a lot! I am shooting production and reach a conclusion that the comfortable and reliable point of speed draw is not under 1.15. I am not pleased with that of course so please share me some key points to speed up it! My stance and technique are correct, I am relaxed, my shoulders are square and not moving, the same with my torso. ....umm. if it ain't broke, don't fix it. At yesterdays Drillmasters Club I managed 18-A's and 2-C's at 7 yards. Averaged maybe a 1.47 for the twenty round drill with a production rig. Sub 1.30's are good. Sub 1.20's are REAL good. -1.00 times (all A's) are reserved for the best, hardest working shooters in the game. IMHO. Jim Edited March 25, 2007 by JimmyM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Well, the 1st step is to figure out how much time you are willing to sacrifice working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosshooting Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 I am hitting A's every time with time 1.15-1.20 in production DA first shot. I think if I try to speed it up little more it will became risky. So I am glad to hear that it's a good time for a draw! Thank you guys! Appreciates your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 It's not about speed, but it's also about speed! Your draw is just getting the gun out, up and on target. A great way to speed it up is to slow it dow. (man I feel like the riddler today, where's my question mark suit? ) If you slow it down in dry fire and really examine where your hands are and what they are doing, you will surely find some wasted movement and wasted time. The next trick is to commit those improvements to the subconscious so you can draw and shoot on autopilot. This is the difference between practicing and shooting. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Well, the 1st step is to figure out how much time you are willing to sacrifice working on it. And by that he probably doesn't JUST mean how much time are you willing to spend, but what time will you take away from other practice. In other words, how important is that ONE shot? MY theory has always been, once you get something to the point it's a strength, go find a weakness and work on that. Your draw is fine, how's your reload? How are your transitions? Movement? Accuracy? Shooting on the move? etc etc etc... There's always something to work on. The draw is an easy number to check on and brag about, but has that one shot being .05 faster ever won anybody a match let alone a stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 20 years ago I became obsessed with my draw. I practiced very hard and often and got it down to a smokin time! Unfortunately all I really accomplished was to injure my elbow. The small amount of time I gained made no real difference in my overall performance. Today I just try to be as consistant as I can with my draw @1.3 to 1.4 I can hit all A shots even on longer shots. It took years for my elbow to come back...and I dont want to hurt it again!! Just my 2c worth Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I thought my draw was pretty damn good until I posted a video of myself for the M/GM crowd to critique. What I found out is that my weak hand is meeting the grip far later than it should, and it was costing me .2 every time. Post a video of yourself and allow the experienced shooters move you in the correct direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaJoe Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Post a video of yourself and allow the experienced shooters move you in the correct direction. +1. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 (edited) What is your reaction time to the buzzer? Beginning of beep or end of beep? That may be an area to shave a bit of time. Not that there's anything wrong with a 1.15, but you asked. Edited April 4, 2007 by Sharyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 What is your reaction time to the buzzer? Beginning of beep or end of beep? That may be an area to shave a bit of time. Not that there's anything wrong with a 1.15, but you asked. What Sharyn said. I have shaved off the better part of .15-.20ish on my draw by working hard to start my movement at the very beginning of the beep. This is one of the few things were you can force yourself to go faster without actually trying to do something (like trying to physically speed up part of your draw) faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 What is your reaction time to the buzzer? Beginning of beep or end of beep? That may be an area to shave a bit of time. Not that there's anything wrong with a 1.15, but you asked. What Sharyn said. I have shaved off the better part of .15-.20ish on my draw by working hard to start my movement at the very beginning of the beep. This is one of the few things were you can force yourself to go faster without actually trying to do something (like trying to physically speed up part of your draw) faster. My mental cue is "get your hand on the gun before the buzzer stops buzzing". Once you're hitting that, get the gun out (with a good grip) before the buzzer stops buzzing. With a long buzzer (some are 0.3 sec and some are 0.5 sec), it can be done, and even with a short one, it gets you moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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