Angus Hobdell Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 After a meeting with IPSC at the IWA show in Nuremberg Germany, 09/03/2007 IPSC (Nick Alexakos, Fritz Geppart, Alain Jolly) committee visited with CZ UB at the Show and made a decision to ALLOW the CZ 75 SP01 for production division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 SP01 Shadow? Or just the SP01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 The SP-01 has been on the IPSC list for a long time. The Shadow has been specifically diallowed. It looks like that might change now The USPSA list is silent on the Shadow right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizz Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Are both varieties of the shadow to be approved? Both the european CZ UB Sp01 Shadow and the different US version? Edited March 12, 2007 by whizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Just to re-hash, the Shadow is an SP-01 (non- decocker version) and simply has the following additions: -CZ factory race hammer -CZ-85 Combat trigger (with adjustable overtravel) -CZ factory ambi safties from the single action guns (wider - like an STI ambi) -CZ factory race sights, fixed, incl FO front -special recoil spring (the stock is way too heavy - this matters for IPSC more than USPSA) -different factory grips For USPSA, all these changes could have been made anyway (except possibly the safeties) so the change in USPSA would not be such a big deal. But it is important to our friends in IPSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 The safeties are legal because the SP01 was originally approved with them on..then they were switched to the CZ85 style safety. This version is being shot in Austrailia..as the SP01 as I understand..there was some discussion that CZUB dropped the Shadow moniker and upgraded the original SP01 and is shipping that way to Austrailia (with a slightly longer barrel ) and other european countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Are both varieties of the shadow to be approved? Both the european CZ UB Sp01 Shadow and the different US version? The American version is no longer called "Shadow". The new and shiny name is "CZ Custom Shop CZ 75 SP-01", as listed on http://czusa.com/product_detail.php?id=74 Edited March 12, 2007 by gose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 After a meeting with IPSC at the IWA show in Nuremberg Germany, 09/03/2007 I don't know what impresses me more, the decision to allow the gun, or Angus time travelling safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 After a meeting with IPSC at the IWA show in Nuremberg Germany, 09/03/2007 I don't know what impresses me more, the decision to allow the gun, or Angus time travelling safely. Just get him to tell you the story about his date with Queen Victoria. I heard it was just after that date she came up with the expression "We are not amused"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 After a meeting with IPSC at the IWA show in Nuremberg Germany, 09/03/2007 I don't know what impresses me more, the decision to allow the gun, or Angus time travelling safely. That sort of looks like a metric number for March 9, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Yeah, keep in mind Angus don't speak American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 After a meeting with IPSC at the IWA show in Nuremberg Germany, 09/03/2007 I don't know what impresses me more, the decision to allow the gun, or Angus time travelling safely. Somebody ought to let Angus in on our custom of posting dates in month/day/year order. Moving logically from the specific to the general as in day/month/year is just not enough fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 ...and its not nearly as funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Hobdell Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 whateverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 So the Shadow and Custom shop have the same reduced Mainspring and recoil spring? would 147gr 9mm at 134pf be harder on the frame/internals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 would 147gr 9mm at 134pf be harder on the frame/internals? I understand your concern. However, the copy of the CZ made by Tanfoglio & sold as the "P9" was often built into a 9mm Open Major race gun back when the power factor minimum was 175 and most shooters loaded 9mm to 180 PF. Yes, stronger springs were used. However, the stronger springs were often blamed for breaking slide stops since they closed the slide with more force. Moreover, the slide velocity w/ a 147 minor load is far below what those old P9s started to take back around 1990 - and many of those guns are still running (though often as 9x21s). On top of that, the SP01 has a much thicker/stronger barrel. It should last forever w/ 147 minor loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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