Steve Koski Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 (edited) I got a Rock River 16" flat top, quad rail free float tube, no front or rear sight. What kind of sights/optics should I slap on this to be reasonably competitive for 3-gun? My budget is about $500 at present. I can spend more, but would have to save for a while (and will if it's worth it). Thanks, Koski P.S. I have a Tasco Pro Point 30mm red dot sitting forlornly in the safe right now, but the dot is pretty big (maybe 5-10 MOA - I'm not sure), perhaps better suited for pistol distance shooting. How could this fit into the equation? Edited December 26, 2006 by Steve Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrd Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 It all depends on where you are. Here in the East a dot is fastest on most courses, out West some magnification in handy although some are winning out to 300 using an EOTech. Stick your dot on and go shooting, try out others at matches and see what is winning where you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Do a search, must be about a hundred pages here on this.---------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STInky Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 It all depends on exactly how big your dot is and how far / what kind of targets you will be shooting at. I wouldn't want to shoot 12" or smaller plates at 200-300 yards with a dot that's 8 or 10 MOA...you would never see the plates, even with a hold over. That ProPoint would be fine for up-close/mid-range rifle work. I had one on my first pre-ban rifle and it worked for years with no problem....as a matter of fact, a friend of mine is still running it to this day....it's got to be over 12 years old !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 The Eotech 512 is perfect here in Florida. Most targets are within 100-125 yards. The Eotech has a one minute dot with a 65 minute circle around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 One to Four minute dot is OK. Bigger sux on a rifle. The low powered variable route is cheap and a good compromise. The Simmons Pro-Diamond shotgun scope is cheap and a lot of folks like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stfla Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Hey Jax, what yardage would you sight in that setup, for those ranges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 Stick your dot on and go shooting, try out others at matches and see what is winning where you are.I'm going to do just that. I ordered a set of rings from CDNN today so I can mount it. That EOtech is tempting...Thanks for your input folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I sighted in my Eotech at 100 yards. I shot it at 25, 50,75 etc out to 200-250 yards and wrote down the hold over info and attatched it to my rifle until I did not have to think about it . Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 I mounted up the old Tasco Pro Point. It puts a nice 4 MOA dot on the target, as nice as any of the non magnified Aimpoints around (probably not as durable though). I was smacking man size targets with ease out to 200 yards. A 10" target at 200 gave me about 2 misses in 8 shots. Damned dot basically covers the whole target. I'll keep my eyes pealed for the next step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdmoore Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 There is a LOT written about this, and there's good advice above. IMO, hard to beat a variable powered scope with a good FOV. Meopta had a good scope for close to your price range, but you'd need to save a bit. Glass is very clear, I'm fast getting addicted to mine. Mueller was developing one, been dormant for a while, but on AR15 occasionally there's a comment made and it might not be dead (yet). Leopold has a 1-3x. I think there is a few others. Best bang for the buck is the prodiamond turkey scope by simmons. It's 1.5 to 5x, and it's got a cult following. I've got 2, and can't bring myself to sell them as they are worth more to me than I'd likely get offered!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cking Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I like the leupold shotgun 1-4 power scope. It has heavy duplex which is fine for up close blasting and fine reticle in middle for precision work. Good eye relief, field of view and cost is about $180.00. I checked out the $500 leupold and couldn't see any advantage worth the extra money. Now it ain't as rugged as my ACOG and glass is not as good but it is faster up close and eye relief is not as critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Steve.. like a couple posts mentions, really check out the Simmons - hopefully you can still pick them up in the $75 range. They were closed out at $50... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtdShooter Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Low power variable as close to 1x on the low setting as you can get... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2ipsc Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Meopta had a good scope for close to your price range, but you'd need to save a bit... Definitely worth saving up for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraman1 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I am using a Nikon 3.3-10 . I havent got to use it up close but at 50 yards and out didnt seem to have any trouble keeping up with anyone . am thinking a 2-7X33 might work better simply because I use this rifle out to 5 or 600 yards . Nice thing about my 3.3-10 is that it has Mil-Dots so I can use Mil Dot holdovers on the far away stuff . Maybe I just need to mount some sights on the darn thing somewhere for the up close and personal stuff . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) The only problem you might encounter with a shotgun scope is parallex. The shotgun scopes are set at 50 or 75 yards depending on the make. I use an Eotech but a friend has the Leupold 1-3 variable that I shot and it was nice without breaking the bank. I used a Simmons shotgun scope at the AMU 3 gun this year and did not like it. If I go back to a variable it will be the Meopta or the new Leupold 1-5 they had on display at Ft Benning. It can be ordered with customized reticles. Edited January 21, 2007 by Jaxshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 (edited) Is the new Leupold a true one power? I currently have the 1.5-5x20 w/ circle dot reticle, and while it's not bad moving from target to target up close... it takes a bit of getting used to. I'm really considering trying out one of their other 1x variables, specifically the VX-II 1-4x20mm. p.s. Currently Leupold's illumination is not the brightest. My 1.5-5 is illuminated, and I can't see it outside, unless it's VERY cloudy. Flip the front cover closed for BAC, doesn't really work on a sunny day. Scope is very clear though, and I don't regret the purchase. Edited January 22, 2007 by ken hebert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 They claim they are true 1X. I have not shot the new ones. The one my friend has seems to be a true 1X comparing it to other scopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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