firematt100 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I was looking at base pads by grams. They offer several different sizes. Which one do i want? shooting open 38sc. I was thinking the 11mm for my 140 mags and the 2.5 for the big stick? what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Sounds like you have the sizes right, but are they available. I've never used Grams basepads but it sounds like they may be in short supply. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...88&hl=grams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipscbob Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I use Dawson basepads for ALL of my mags. Better material and design for my money. They are also much easier to remove for cleaning during a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I have had both and I agree that the dawson pads are easier to install/remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Depending on what you're trying to do, a Grams pad might be your only solution. For instance, I just completed an SPS tube based 170mm mag, and a Grams 6.5 was the only real option to get the maximum length. For a 170mm post-ban tube, you'll probably want a 4mm Grams pad. If fit properly, that should take you to 171 or so (which fits the gauge - you'll want to check that measurement with your parts, of course). For the other tubes, get what you're comfortable reloading with. I like Dawson's pads, too - easy to remove, and tough material. They're the easiest to remove of the three biggies, but they're not *that* much easier to remove, in the end. Hard to remove is one that requires removing screws and such - none of the S_I pads that I know of do, so... If a Grams or Arredondo pad is too hard to remove, you're too damn lazy I actually use Arredondo pads on my short mags, right now. I use the flat (no capacity increase) pads on two mags, because I like how they feel for reloading. I like the feel of the shorter Grams pads 2nd best, and the Dawson short pads (+1 or +2) 3rd best. But - that's a small thing in terms of the reload, really, and its definitely a personal preference based on how they fit my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Sounds like you have the sizes right, but are they available.I've never used Grams basepads but it sounds like they may be in short supply. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...88&hl=grams You should be able to find Grams basepads very easily as most of the shops have them in stock. The link above seems to be a different situation regarding developing a new type of basepad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin40 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 For open class and STI tubes 140mm tubes you want the 11mm pads 170mm tubes you want the 4mm pads. The 4mm pad may or may not fit the gauge depending on your mag body. You may have to do alittle work(extremely easy) to make it fit. The actual length is 171.25. I had to make a few swipes with a file to make it fit the gauge. About 2 mins of work. Flyin40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 For Open, I have both Grams and Dawsons. Mags come to the same length however the Grams pads let me load one more round than the Dawsons (in untuned tubes w/Grams springs & followers). b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshooter Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 i just got 1 grams base pad from one of the guys i shoot with at are weekly ipsc shoots. nice pad only thing i didn't like about it was that they are plastic or the one i got is. i like the little heavier aluminum Dawson pads. but with the grams i was about to squeeze in 2 more rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 They are plastic, but bevin gives lifetime guarantees. And you do want 4mm for the big sticks, all you have to do is file a little off the back side of the mag to make it fit the gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazshooter Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Depending on what you're trying to do, a Grams pad might be your only solution. For instance, I just completed an SPS tube based 170mm mag, and a Grams 6.5 was the only real option to get the maximum length.For a 170mm post-ban tube, you'll probably want a 4mm Grams pad. If fit properly, that should take you to 171 or so (which fits the gauge - you'll want to check that measurement with your parts, of course). For the other tubes, get what you're comfortable reloading with. I like Dawson's pads, too - easy to remove, and tough material. They're the easiest to remove of the three biggies, but they're not *that* much easier to remove, in the end. Hard to remove is one that requires removing screws and such - none of the S_I pads that I know of do, so... If a Grams or Arredondo pad is too hard to remove, you're too damn lazy I actually use Arredondo pads on my short mags, right now. I use the flat (no capacity increase) pads on two mags, because I like how they feel for reloading. I like the feel of the shorter Grams pads 2nd best, and the Dawson short pads (+1 or +2) 3rd best. But - that's a small thing in terms of the reload, really, and its definitely a personal preference based on how they fit my hand. Thank you for the info. You've enlightened more than one person today. Thanks again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Grams pads are polycarbonate, the same material as most shooting glasses. I put Grams internals and his 4mm basepad on my STI 170 & trimmed it slightly to fit the gage. Took the capacity from 27 [26 easy to seat] up to 29 [28 easy to seat] with normal, rimmed 38 Super ammo. A lot of ppl use Grams internals and Dawson pad - it really just comes down to whether you want the pad to come off easy when not shooting, or if you want it to stay put no questions asked while you're shooting. One or the other, take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glk21C Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 the best and easiest thing to do is just call Beven and ask him. He is really helpful and stands behinds his products. I personally think his products are the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipscbob Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) A lot of ppl use Grams internals and Dawson pad - it really just comes down to whether you want the pad to come off easy when not shooting, or if you want it to stay put no questions asked while you're shooting. One or the other, take your pick. Been using Dawson pads on ALL of our open and limited mags for 6+ years and have NEVER had one come off when I didnt want it to. The Dawsons are definitely the more intelligent design and represent a much better value for the money. Dave and crew also stand behind their product and support the customer 100%. Check them out, you won't be sorry. Edited September 23, 2006 by ipscbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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